RE: Where did the universe come from? Atheistic origin science has no answer.
March 9, 2014 at 2:14 am
(This post was last modified: March 9, 2014 at 2:24 am by Wyrd of Gawd.)
(February 23, 2014 at 6:11 am)Alex K Wrote:(February 23, 2014 at 2:47 am)Wyrd of Gawd Wrote:
And I don't even know what you are on about. Where do you get this stuff?
But concerning the general question of "Universe coming from nothing". I reiterate it in ever conversation where this trope comes up: what does "coming from" mean if there's no universe with time, in which a process can happen? It's meaningless unless you specify that there is something like time independent of our universe, in which case the beginning isn't really the beginning.
Why would there be time in a field of Nothing? Can time exist in a field of Nothing if there's no atomic movement of any kind? Does time exist before the first hydrogen atom is formed or does time begin with the formation of the first string in a field of Nothing?
Do you think time is constant throughout the universe or is it variable depending on where you are? If you were on Pluto would time go slower than on Earth or would it be the same?
(March 9, 2014 at 2:10 am)rsb Wrote: There is nothing in the big bang to imply anything outside the universe or the bang, and it is a false argument to say it needs to prove outside that.
Nothing more than philosophical smoke and mirrors and nonsense words spoken with the intent to weave fairy tales.
I am happy with the 10 billion year history of observed stellar evolution, as clear as day and night and the stars and black and white and spectroscopy to prove it all. I don't really care about what came before, explain how your theological religious lies are consistent with that 10 billion year history and I will then perhaps think about your claims beyond those observable boundaries.
How do you know that the visible universe is 10 - 13.7 billion years old?