Vaccines are a plot by big pharma!

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Still waiting on that "proof" that you say is out there. If you have none, then your belief that vaccines cause illnesses is unjustified, and the fact that you use alarmist tactics to scare people into not using them is despicable. I'm very glad that the members of this forum are smart enough not to take your bullshit at face value, but I wonder if there's anyone you may have influenced along the way that may have seen you as an authority figure and taken your advice not to use vaccinations.

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That's up to them...

It's up to you whether or not you tell them. You're spouting off your drivel with no evidence to back it up; you're as bad as a pastor explaining to a child suffering from appendicitis that only faith healing will work at this juncture.

...we all have to make our own minds up, we have so much out there who is for and who is against vac...

Like what? What is out there?

...people like you take whatever medical science says is true...

I've already explained this to you; I take medical science as the best information we have concerning the treatment of disease and illness, because those who are doing the science are the experts. I trust that their information is correct. Is their information true? As true as it can be until new information comes out that adds to or supersedes the old information.

...the medical industry has killed millions over the years, in fact hospitals are the most dangerous place to be.

Automobiles have killed millions over the years, in fact interstates are the most dangerous place to be.

Not so long ago I was diagnosed with prostate cancer, for two years I kept telling my doctor that I feel there was something serious wrong with me. I have pain in the lower back, and groin area, I said to the doctor that it could be my prostate, he said no, it wouldn't be that , my other doctor also said the same thing. I put up the pain for nearly two years, then they decided to check for prostate problems which they found.

My wife was once misdiagnosed with tourette's syndrome. Turns out she's actually got dystonia. What's your point? That misdiagnoses happen? Yes they do. How exactly does this put the nail in the coffin for vaccines?

You're conflating diagnosis with vaccination science. One of these things is not like the other.

80% of my prostate was cancerous, I have it removed which caused other problems which I won't go into. If I never complained all the time I would be dead now.

I'm sorry that you had cancer, but I'm relieved it was taken care of. Your persistence is obviously what helped clue the doctors into finding out what was actually wrong with you.

(But this still does not relate to debunking the science that goes into making a vaccine.)

My father who died from a blood clot, died because of a young doctor who didn't report the clot when it was first found, they were going to dissolve the clot, but the staff who came after the young doctor wasn't told about the clot, my dad died that night.

I'm really sorry to hear about your loss. Really, I am. Your story about your father is a common one, and it relates to something called "malpractice" which is far-removed from the science that goes into making a vaccine. Nice try though.

Here's one for you. My wife suffers from many symptoms that go beyond her dystonia. For the longest time she blamed it on the ingestion of certain types of food such as wheat, dairy, and soy products. Now, with help from the medical community and diligent research on our part, we are discovering that the food is not what is causing the problem. We still don't know what is doing it, but we at least know what it isn't.

Did the medical community lead her in the wrong direction at times? Possibly. Could all this heart ache and suffering have been avoided? Perhaps. Do we think all of medical science is bullshit because of a couple bad experiences? No; we're not that deluded.

So don't tell me that medical science don't make mistakes, and big mistakes at that !.

Medical science isn't perfect, but peer review keeps it from making big mistakes. So yes, I'm telling you that it doesn't make the kinds of mistakes that you're suggesting.

Now, do doctors sometimes err and misdiagnose? Absolutely, as was the case with your cancer. Do doctors commit malpractice at times? You betcha, as was evidenced in your father's case. However, do they make mistakes when researching vaccines that prevent diseases? It's possible, but the margin of error is greatly reduced when studies are peer-reviewed and reproduced numerous times. Now, the big question is, do vaccines cause illness? There is literally zero evidence to suggest such a thing.

Unless you have some for us.