The Historical Jesus is real and He rose from the grave

[ThomM]

You haven't looked at it closely, have you?

You haven't looked at the amount of suffering, have you?

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It is your fanciful, magical thinking and delusions that I don't apprehend.

I believe the suffering is a result of the fall. God's original design was perfect and will undo all our destruction someday.

Exactly what did your god do that was provably PERFECT?

The claim of a perfect god - is one that has always been something I could not understand - because a perfect god - would be proven that - by showing that everything it did was perfect.

And yet - it is quite clear to all who will actually look - that the claimed creations are simply NOT at all perfect. If the god was perfect - and created humans - then ALL humans should be perfect - or the god did something wrong deliberately. If imperfection was a deliberate act of god - then we are not responsible for his deliberately imperfect actions - even the bible says we are responsible for only our own actions.

If the god's plan was perfect - HOW could Imperfect humans destroy it? A perfect plan would have survived humanity. IF the god is ALL KNOWING - it knew what humans would do before it created the plan - so to make a perfect plan - it would have had to take that into account - Obviously it had a problem - lack of perfection.

In fact - a total lack of perfection. WE have stars collapsing in themselves -certainly NOT something that a HUMAN caused
THERE are whole Galaxies that are colliding with each other - again - not something a human caused as well.
Black holes are not caused by humans either.

IT is nice to claim all of these traits for a god - but in fact - reality points to the fact that these things cannot be true ALL AT ONCE.

Example - the god LIES - deliberately
THAT is the ONLY explanation for the "NEW COVENANT" claim to replace the old Covenant. Since the god supposedly is ALL knowing - then there IS no new information EVER for which it would have to change its mind. So - since the god would also have supposedly known about the "New Convenant" then it had to know that it would NOT fullfill the old one - before it made the old covenant. So - to make the old covenant was a LIE - that the god knew it would NEVER fullfill.

But the biggest problem with Monotheisms is that claim of a god that is ALL GOOD. In a monotheism there is ONLY one creator - the ONLY being with the power of creation. SO - whatever exists - good or bad - must have been created by that creator (Claiming the devil created evil means the devil had the power to create - and that makes the devil the god) So - if evil exists - it does so because it was created by the god.

IF the god is supposedly almighty - it should have the power to eliminate all evil.
IF it does have that power - and fails to do it - it is responsible for the evil still existing
IF it cannot eliminate the evil - it is NOT almighty