RE: I believe in God: So Debate me
April 12, 2014 at 3:34 pm
(This post was last modified: April 12, 2014 at 3:40 pm by Rabb Allah.)
(April 7, 2014 at 11:50 am)RobbyPants Wrote: I don't know if this has already been asked, but in your profile under religious views, it says "The Slave who worships his Master is Master of the Free".
What does that mean?
Well Mr. Silverman it is actually a misquote of a misquote of a loose quote that finds itself in Dharmic and Sufi traditions. Dharmic religions despise individuality and so do I but not in the normative sense. Individuality is relevant to the self the same way that emotions are relative tot he self, they are not external issues but subjective experiences.
Dharmic and Sufi traditions condense the loss of self to enslavement called "dasa" in Dharmic traditions and "abd" in Sufi/Nabataean traditions. The assertion is that enslavement to god and the loss of will power is the highest form of life because if the loss of self occurs in relation to god(the most powerful mind conceivable) you become the most power mind conceivable. If you assert that God is Panentheistic like 99% of all mystics do then you asset that all possible actions are not free since all actions are the product of 1 mind(God) so if your actions are not free then you must seek freedom which is usually define as self absorption into God.
If God is omniscient then you of course know that any action you do is foretold by God. God knows past and future so there is no true freedom considering that God is essentially "Big Brother" on a divine level. So having the thought of freedom is considered a delusion since by default you are a slave. Not because god wants slaves but because you cannot be anything else int he face of a mind which is the product of ALL possible, known or conceivable outcomes. So acknowledging enslavement is freedom in the same sense that finding out whether your girlfriend has AIDS is freedom of relief(weird analogy I know)
(April 12, 2014 at 3:29 pm)Brakeman Wrote:(April 12, 2014 at 3:18 pm)Shaykh al-Kabir Shair Abdulrab Wrote: ..
So "Shaykh," have you ever actually communicated with god?
If so, can you describe the form and substance of his reply?
God does not speak, I have found no reason to think so.
(April 12, 2014 at 3:29 pm)Senshi Wrote: I like to debate it with Muslims. The internet offers a debate platform that is safe from the risk of decapitation. However the topic should be debated again and again until dangerous religious practices are diminished.
In general Muslims are cowards and the fear of decapitation only comes from foreign threats. It is rather simple to dump Muslims on idiotic claims due to the fact they have very moronic beliefs that are based upon the most fucked up version of legalese. They are ignorant of their own religion and just like Christians love twisting something already twisted into something that conforms to their wants and needs