RE: Heaven and The Problem of Evil
April 12, 2014 at 10:21 pm
(This post was last modified: April 12, 2014 at 10:24 pm by MindForgedManacle.)
-sigh- Okay, I'll just run through the Problem of Heaven and why theistic responses to it here have been silly:
The general outline of the argument can be put better, but I'll just slap this together:
The argument above seems to be a valid usage of modus tollens (iff A, then B; not B; therefore not A). Now, the problem is that if the theist says that people in heaven COULD choose to sin if they wanted, but they simply don't want to, they reach an impasse: Why didn't God just start creation with people in heaven who have libertarian free will and could choose to do evil, but simply don't want to? This causes the theist to loose the Free Will Defense as a response to the Logical Problem of Evil.
The general outline of the argument can be put better, but I'll just slap this together:
Quote:1) If there is to be moral goodness, there must be existent, exercisable free will that allows for the possibility of choosing to do evil.
2) Sin is evil.
3) God is in heaven, and God cannot be in the presence of sin.
4) People in heaven cannot sin.
5) Therefore, heaven is a place without moral goodness because there is no possibility of evil.
The argument above seems to be a valid usage of modus tollens (iff A, then B; not B; therefore not A). Now, the problem is that if the theist says that people in heaven COULD choose to sin if they wanted, but they simply don't want to, they reach an impasse: Why didn't God just start creation with people in heaven who have libertarian free will and could choose to do evil, but simply don't want to? This causes the theist to loose the Free Will Defense as a response to the Logical Problem of Evil.
