While we are still trying to figure out what happened before, if anything, I really hate this argument because when theists read this they stupidly go "AH HA, you don't know so therefore".
They never want to consider that anything we don't know now is a product of a "what" not a product in a factory created by a "who" boss. If one accepts that the seasons on this planet change without help from a cognition, and that a hurricane does not need Poseidon to occur, and lightening doesn't need Thor, then the universe itself does not need a human or super human to lead to what we see now.
What science is proving is that "all this" is a giant weather pattern, not caused by a thinking cognition. So when one employs Ocham's razor to the unknown, the simplest explanation is most likely that what was prior is simply the end result of something else that lead to the big bang.
Even Hawkins has said "A God Is not required".
Don't allow the theist to trap us in the issue of infinite vs finite when science says neither require a cognition.
They never want to consider that anything we don't know now is a product of a "what" not a product in a factory created by a "who" boss. If one accepts that the seasons on this planet change without help from a cognition, and that a hurricane does not need Poseidon to occur, and lightening doesn't need Thor, then the universe itself does not need a human or super human to lead to what we see now.
What science is proving is that "all this" is a giant weather pattern, not caused by a thinking cognition. So when one employs Ocham's razor to the unknown, the simplest explanation is most likely that what was prior is simply the end result of something else that lead to the big bang.
Even Hawkins has said "A God Is not required".
Don't allow the theist to trap us in the issue of infinite vs finite when science says neither require a cognition.