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Homosexuals "wrecking" Christian careers
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RE: Homosexuals "wrecking" Christian careers
(April 25, 2014 at 6:55 pm)Heywood Wrote:
(April 25, 2014 at 6:48 pm)Coffee Jesus Wrote: So it is discrimination if we don't let you discriminate?

The point has been made. Address it.

I disagree with your characterization that forcing a baker to make a wedding cake for a wedding that he does not recognize is discrimination against the baker. It is rather forcing the baker to take an action against his will for the benefit of someone else. We normally call this slavery not discrimination.

This is the point I made and you failed to address it.

Define "slavery". If "slavery" is making somebody do something they don't want to do, then it's slavery when the government makes you pay your taxes, yield to oncoming traffic, or send your children to school... I know what you're about to say.

But those rules are to prevent me fro doing harm!
Civil liberty - My right to swing my first ends at your nose.

If I were to force you to buy a cheap wedding cake rather than a fancy one, I would be doing harm. We should agree on that.
You're not harmed when a single baker refuses to make a cake for you, but you're harmed when two-thirds of the local bakers refuse, or when the very best bakers refuse. It reduces your choices and negatively impacts your wedding.
This is a case of "diffusion of responsibility". When many people are responsible for something, nobody actually feels responsible for it. Nobody had the responsibility to call the police as Kitty Genovese was slowly murdered outside, which is why nobody did. Did none of them allow Kitty Genovese to be murdered, or did they all allow Kitty Genovese to be murdered?

By the way, I know this isn't comparable to murder, but Kitty Genovese is the classic example of diffusion of responsibility. Tongue

edit: Apparently the story of Kitty Genovese is exaggerated. Most witnesses didn't realize it was a murder.
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Homosexuals "wrecking" Christian careers - by Foxaèr - April 25, 2014 at 8:09 am
RE: Homosexuals "wrecking" Christian careers - by Heywood - April 25, 2014 at 12:54 pm
RE: Homosexuals "wrecking" Christian careers - by Heywood - April 25, 2014 at 1:19 pm
RE: Homosexuals "wrecking" Christian careers - by Heywood - April 25, 2014 at 1:48 pm
RE: Homosexuals "wrecking" Christian careers - by Heywood - April 25, 2014 at 1:54 pm
RE: Homosexuals "wrecking" Christian careers - by Foxaèr - April 25, 2014 at 2:46 pm
RE: Homosexuals "wrecking" Christian careers - by Losty - April 25, 2014 at 2:51 pm
RE: Homosexuals "wrecking" Christian careers - by Heywood - April 25, 2014 at 3:04 pm
RE: Homosexuals "wrecking" Christian careers - by Foxaèr - April 25, 2014 at 3:08 pm
RE: Homosexuals "wrecking" Christian careers - by Heywood - April 25, 2014 at 3:15 pm
RE: Homosexuals "wrecking" Christian careers - by Foxaèr - April 25, 2014 at 3:22 pm
RE: Homosexuals "wrecking" Christian careers - by Heywood - April 25, 2014 at 3:27 pm
RE: Homosexuals "wrecking" Christian careers - by Foxaèr - April 25, 2014 at 3:36 pm
RE: Homosexuals "wrecking" Christian careers - by Heywood - April 25, 2014 at 3:44 pm
RE: Homosexuals "wrecking" Christian careers - by Losty - April 25, 2014 at 3:50 pm
RE: Homosexuals "wrecking" Christian careers - by Heywood - April 25, 2014 at 4:20 pm
RE: Homosexuals "wrecking" Christian careers - by Foxaèr - April 25, 2014 at 4:26 pm
RE: Homosexuals "wrecking" Christian careers - by Foxaèr - April 25, 2014 at 3:51 pm
RE: Homosexuals "wrecking" Christian careers - by Losty - April 25, 2014 at 3:41 pm
RE: Homosexuals "wrecking" Christian careers - by Heywood - April 25, 2014 at 3:55 pm
RE: Homosexuals "wrecking" Christian careers - by Losty - April 25, 2014 at 4:03 pm
RE: Homosexuals "wrecking" Christian careers - by Foxaèr - April 25, 2014 at 4:31 pm
RE: Homosexuals "wrecking" Christian careers - by Heywood - April 25, 2014 at 4:46 pm
RE: Homosexuals "wrecking" Christian careers - by Foxaèr - April 25, 2014 at 4:52 pm
RE: Homosexuals "wrecking" Christian careers - by Heywood - April 25, 2014 at 5:03 pm
RE: Homosexuals "wrecking" Christian careers - by Foxaèr - April 25, 2014 at 5:08 pm
RE: Homosexuals "wrecking" Christian careers - by Heywood - April 25, 2014 at 5:17 pm
RE: Homosexuals "wrecking" Christian careers - by Foxaèr - April 25, 2014 at 5:23 pm
RE: Homosexuals "wrecking" Christian careers - by Losty - April 25, 2014 at 5:33 pm
RE: Homosexuals "wrecking" Christian careers - by Foxaèr - April 25, 2014 at 5:43 pm
RE: Homosexuals "wrecking" Christian careers - by Foxaèr - April 25, 2014 at 5:56 pm
RE: Homosexuals "wrecking" Christian careers - by Heywood - April 25, 2014 at 6:06 pm
RE: Homosexuals "wrecking" Christian careers - by Heywood - April 25, 2014 at 6:36 pm
RE: Homosexuals "wrecking" Christian careers - by Heywood - April 25, 2014 at 6:55 pm
RE: Homosexuals "wrecking" Christian careers - by Coffee Jesus - April 25, 2014 at 7:53 pm
RE: Homosexuals "wrecking" Christian careers - by Losty - April 25, 2014 at 6:29 pm
RE: Homosexuals "wrecking" Christian careers - by Heywood - April 25, 2014 at 6:04 pm
RE: Homosexuals "wrecking" Christian careers - by Heywood - April 25, 2014 at 7:14 pm
RE: Homosexuals "wrecking" Christian careers - by Foxaèr - April 25, 2014 at 7:18 pm
RE: Homosexuals "wrecking" Christian careers - by Heywood - April 25, 2014 at 7:21 pm
RE: Homosexuals "wrecking" Christian careers - by Foxaèr - April 25, 2014 at 7:25 pm
RE: Homosexuals "wrecking" Christian careers - by Heywood - April 25, 2014 at 10:58 pm
RE: Homosexuals "wrecking" Christian careers - by Heywood - April 25, 2014 at 11:25 pm
RE: Homosexuals "wrecking" Christian careers - by Heywood - April 26, 2014 at 5:11 pm
RE: Homosexuals "wrecking" Christian careers - by Heywood - April 26, 2014 at 5:33 pm
RE: Homosexuals "wrecking" Christian careers - by Heywood - April 26, 2014 at 5:49 pm
RE: Homosexuals "wrecking" Christian careers - by Cinjin - April 25, 2014 at 6:46 pm
RE: Homosexuals "wrecking" Christian careers - by Jaysyn - April 25, 2014 at 5:42 pm
RE: Homosexuals "wrecking" Christian careers - by Heywood - April 25, 2014 at 1:12 pm
RE: Homosexuals "wrecking" Christian careers - by Heywood - April 25, 2014 at 1:35 pm
RE: Homosexuals "wrecking" Christian careers - by Tonus - April 25, 2014 at 1:12 pm
RE: Homosexuals "wrecking" Christian careers - by Heywood - April 25, 2014 at 1:31 pm
RE: Homosexuals "wrecking" Christian careers - by Losty - April 25, 2014 at 5:30 pm
RE: Homosexuals "wrecking" Christian careers - by Heywood - April 25, 2014 at 2:32 pm
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RE: Homosexuals "wrecking" Christian careers - by Tonus - April 25, 2014 at 3:29 pm
RE: Homosexuals "wrecking" Christian careers - by Heywood - April 25, 2014 at 3:32 pm
RE: Homosexuals "wrecking" Christian careers - by Foxaèr - April 25, 2014 at 3:49 pm
RE: Homosexuals "wrecking" Christian careers - by Losty - April 25, 2014 at 5:17 pm
RE: Homosexuals "wrecking" Christian careers - by Heywood - April 25, 2014 at 7:19 pm
RE: Homosexuals "wrecking" Christian careers - by Foxaèr - April 25, 2014 at 7:21 pm
RE: Homosexuals "wrecking" Christian careers - by Heywood - April 25, 2014 at 8:07 pm
RE: Homosexuals "wrecking" Christian careers - by Foxaèr - April 25, 2014 at 8:10 pm
RE: Homosexuals "wrecking" Christian careers - by Heywood - April 25, 2014 at 10:06 pm
RE: Homosexuals "wrecking" Christian careers - by Heywood - April 25, 2014 at 10:46 pm
RE: Homosexuals "wrecking" Christian careers - by Heywood - April 25, 2014 at 8:41 pm
RE: Homosexuals "wrecking" Christian careers - by Foxaèr - April 25, 2014 at 8:49 pm
RE: Homosexuals "wrecking" Christian careers - by Heywood - April 25, 2014 at 8:59 pm
RE: Homosexuals "wrecking" Christian careers - by Foxaèr - April 25, 2014 at 9:01 pm
RE: Homosexuals "wrecking" Christian careers - by Heywood - April 25, 2014 at 9:07 pm
RE: Homosexuals "wrecking" Christian careers - by Losty - April 25, 2014 at 8:56 pm
Homosexuals "wrecking" Christian careers - by Rampant.A.I. - April 25, 2014 at 10:53 pm
RE: Homosexuals "wrecking" Christian careers - by Heywood - April 25, 2014 at 11:13 pm
Homosexuals "wrecking" Christian careers - by Rampant.A.I. - April 25, 2014 at 10:57 pm
Homosexuals "wrecking" Christian careers - by Rampant.A.I. - April 25, 2014 at 11:20 pm
Homosexuals "wrecking" Christian careers - by Rampant.A.I. - April 25, 2014 at 11:26 pm
RE: Homosexuals "wrecking" Christian careers - by Heywood - April 25, 2014 at 11:32 pm
RE: Homosexuals "wrecking" Christian careers - by Heywood - April 26, 2014 at 1:13 am
RE: Homosexuals "wrecking" Christian careers - by Heywood - April 26, 2014 at 9:54 am
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