RE: Where did the universe come from? Atheistic origin science has no answer.
April 28, 2014 at 7:39 pm
(April 28, 2014 at 7:19 pm)snowtracks Wrote: the error the atheist make is a presuppositional belief that the future- discovery-gap will explain things; if the supernatural is ruled out before the investigation, that's a belief not an argument. additionally, science has limited range. for instance: the question, does good ultimately prevail over evil?
Are you really this dumb? This atheist "presupposition" you think exists is in reality just a cascading set of logical rules that one needs to follow in order to be internally consistent; the supernatural isn't ruled out, it's just not going to be a potential option until someone can demonstrate that it actually exists, in the same way we're not going to just assume space aliens are a possible answer without having a reason to believe they exist.
This shouldn't be a new thought to you, but things that don't exist can't be the cause of things, and you all have utterly failed to provide any evidence of the supernatural. Come back to us when you have some, and you bet we'll start considering is as part of the set of things that exist. Until then, you're just bitching that we won't take your fantasies as seriously as you do.
Moreover, even if we never found a discovery that explains X thing or Y thing, that doesn't make the conclusion you've come to without evidence correct or truthful, which is the point of this apparent "presupposition" you've found in our views. You're essentially saying we're being unfair because we refuse to accept your arguments from ignorance.
And for your example of science having limits, you give us a question based around two conceptual subjects that don't actually exist, and therefore can't prevail over anything, and that's just disregarding the many language issues in your question. You couldn't have asked anything more nonsensical if you'd tried.
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