Oh Sweet Reason. Seriously? You're still defending the Bush administration's case for war? I would have thought by now the right wing would be saying, "OK, he lied us into a war but that's all in the past now and let's not play the blame game."
But fine, we can try him here. I'd be happy with that. I think the rest of the world would be as well.
The intelligence books were cooked by policy decision. The White House put tremendous pressure on the CIA and other groups to sing along. That's how the "Yellow Cake" story broke. It was b.s. and a brave reporter had the guts to say so. They outed his wife, a CIA agent, and ruined her career as an act of reprisal and then covered it up.
The Congress was controlled by the GOP and any Democrat or other resistance was labeled "unpatriotic" by the right wing. Sure, the Dems were spineless wimps and willing to go along with the GOP rather than put up a fight but what else is new?
Yellow Cake from Niger.
Insider testimony from Clark.
The evidence is undeniable. Bush lied us into that war.
How about there was a lot of confusion, especially since there were violent Islamic protests elsewhere in the world at exactly that moment when the attack happened? We're only talking about a week later, remember and the White House did later correct and call it a terrorist attack. As scandals go, this is weak stuff and not worthy of the endless line of investigations that reveal nothing new.
Still researching the email from Rhodes. My preliminary finding is that this "smoking gun" like all the ones that came before it, are hyped up bullshit as well but I'm at work right now and will get to this when I can.
(May 5, 2014 at 12:24 pm)A Theist Wrote: [quote='DeistPaladin' pid='664463' dateline='1399303000']Gee, maybe this anti-American bias isn't for no reason but because of stuff like the last Iraq war and the arrogance of certain conservatives that international law only applies to other countries. Recently, warhawk David Brooks who cheer led the Iraq War was on the air, got on the air to condemn Russia saying, without a hint of any awareness of the irony, "you don't just go around invading other countries."
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That's bull...to begin with, there's such an anti-American bias world wide that no American would stand a fair chance in an international Kangaroo Court. We can take care of our own.
But fine, we can try him here. I'd be happy with that. I think the rest of the world would be as well.
Quote:Secondly, if you're going to bring Bush up on charges over Iraq then you're also going to have go after Congress, Tony Blair, the British Parliament, the CIA, Britain's MI-6, and so on...They all saw the same MI-6 report that said Iraq had WMDs.Don't diffuse responsibility. This was Bush administration's war. They pushed for it. They shoved for it. They got it. The buck stops with them.
The intelligence books were cooked by policy decision. The White House put tremendous pressure on the CIA and other groups to sing along. That's how the "Yellow Cake" story broke. It was b.s. and a brave reporter had the guts to say so. They outed his wife, a CIA agent, and ruined her career as an act of reprisal and then covered it up.
The Congress was controlled by the GOP and any Democrat or other resistance was labeled "unpatriotic" by the right wing. Sure, the Dems were spineless wimps and willing to go along with the GOP rather than put up a fight but what else is new?
Quote:A decision to go into Iraq was based on that report. Congress agreed, the British Parliament agreed, Tony Blair agreed, and so did some of our other allies. Just because Bush made a decision based on a British intelligence report that Blair brought to him doesn't prove he lied.Downing Street Memo.
Yellow Cake from Niger.
Insider testimony from Clark.
The evidence is undeniable. Bush lied us into that war.
Quote:On the otherhand, I can't even begin to imagine that those so close to the President would keep him in the dark over what really happened in Benghazi....if Barack was truly in the dark over the events in Benghazi then Congress should find some way to impeach him for lack of experience and lack of leadership. IMO, I think Barack knew very early on that the attacks in Beghazi were terrorist attacks. I believe he lied, and I believe he knew of a cover up to hide the lie.
How about there was a lot of confusion, especially since there were violent Islamic protests elsewhere in the world at exactly that moment when the attack happened? We're only talking about a week later, remember and the White House did later correct and call it a terrorist attack. As scandals go, this is weak stuff and not worthy of the endless line of investigations that reveal nothing new.
Still researching the email from Rhodes. My preliminary finding is that this "smoking gun" like all the ones that came before it, are hyped up bullshit as well but I'm at work right now and will get to this when I can.
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"The trinity can be equated to having your cake and eating it too."
... -Lucent, trying to defend the Trinity concept
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