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The Million Dollar Question
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RE: The Million Dollar Question
(May 8, 2014 at 11:30 am)lordofgemini Wrote: You say you don't know if the universe wasn't eternal or not. Well when I think which you clearly aren't doing.

"Think"? You mean "imagine." They are different things; don't ever confuse what seems good in your mind with what's actually true.

Quote:I can seem to find a start, my imagination keeps going and and going.

So, because you imagine something and then can't figure out any other way to resolve the problem that you have fantasized into existence, suddenly something needs to be eternal?

Well, to begin with, what you imagine isn't necessarily reality...

Quote: It puts my mind into a logical loop. Thus to get out of the loop I take something to be eternal that is beyond time.

... And what you're doing here is an argument from ignorance and personal incredulity; just because you can't think of another solution (for the problem you have imagined into existence) doesn't mean the one you've decided on is correct....

Quote:And everything else is created.

... And this is an unjustified assertion. Where's your evidence?

Quote:Thus I came to a conclusion that there is something eternal, which is unlike anything. There is no other way about it. What do you reckon.

I reckon you've got an argument from ignorance. Not hugely compelling: when you reach the point where you can't figure out a solution the position should become "I don't know," not "I know something eternal is out there." How do you test that?

Quote:This is what I call logical evidence.

There's no such thing as logical evidence. Evidence is something you feed into logic to arrive at properly justified conclusions. But the claim you've made has no evidence, and cannot be tested, and thus you have nothing beyond your preferences to feed into logic to output your conclusion.

And what you prefer isn't the dictator of reality.
"YOU take the hard look in the mirror. You are everything that is wrong with this world. The only thing important to you, is you." - ronedee

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The Million Dollar Question - by Lemonvariable72 - May 6, 2014 at 1:36 pm
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