(June 9, 2014 at 2:08 pm)Severan Wrote:(June 9, 2014 at 10:29 am)JesusHChrist Wrote: You just need to have faith!
Why do you have the 'faith' in this god in particular? Was it your parents that said this is the right one? There are hundreds of other gods. Why this one?
(June 9, 2014 at 10:51 am)RobbyPants Wrote: Yeah, every bit of "proof" I've seen either requires the assumption of God's existence as a premise (sometimes implicitly) or it requires weird presupposition claims (in order to think about God, he must exist!).
I've noticed whenever someone wants to believe something, implicit assumptions and presupposition do not bother them; however, they stick out like a sore thumb when you don't simply want to believe it.
Beliefs should not change facts. Facts should change beliefs. Any person who presupposes the existence of 'god' is a lunatic.
That's not entirely true. Many of us were once theists. That doesn't mean we were insane. It means we didn't yet discover the rational truths that would cause us to make a shift from religious beliefs to atheism.