(July 11, 2014 at 10:41 pm)Esquilax Wrote: The problem is in your last sentence: a knowing subject only ever has belief that he knows something. The level of certainty that the subject possesses about a given object does not affect whether or not that object truly exists. You can know something for absolute certain and still be dead wrong. Which is the point I'm making: if objective moral values collapse without god around, then they were never objectively real, they were merely thoughts in his head, and hence subjective.
Wouldn't this naturally lead one to fideism?
He who loves God cannot endeavour that God should love him in return - Baruch Spinoza