(July 12, 2014 at 7:41 pm)Fidel_Castronaut Wrote:(July 12, 2014 at 7:36 pm)Rabb Allah Wrote: "I make movies for teenage boys. Oh, dear, what a crime."(Michael Bay).
You are talking to a guy who literally has a library of films and knows the worst from the best. What you have said is rather circular in that you say you do not criticize Michael Bay for making simple actions films but you then criticize him for being simplistic which is the norm of action films. I am not even a Bay fan as I only recall seeing Transformers but he still did a good job with the 1st film
I do not criticise him for making action films, I criticise him for making the same pile of shit time and time again, with the exact same script, with the exact same, simplistic often misogynistic undertones inherent within them. You can have a simple story line done well (for me, dredd), and you can have one done bad (all transformers films). It depends on how the director and the editors et al approach the story in its entirety, from beginning, through the arc, to the conclusion. There's no evidence of any of that in The transformers films. Just any excuse to get forgettable robots onto the screen for 2 hours bashing each other. I can only imagine that the editor(s) in the TF films were paid a lot of money being faced with the prospect of editing a 60 minute long action sequence where nobody can really tell what's happening.
It's down to personal taste, naturally.
I completely agree with mark kermode when he says that if bay wasn't a film director (however that happened) he'd be a porn film director, owing to the way he approaches everything in an overtly simplistic and often mind numbingly boring manner just to get to the fucking. Nothing wrong with that per se, but let's not convince ourselves that he's anything other than a cinematic hack on par with Adam Sandler.
This is the issue though. Actions films are by default very simplistic. I would need a physicist to sum up all of the action films revolving around revenge stories. What Michael Bay does is inherently simplistic, so I like many others do not look for an original story line although the concept of robots creating havoc on screen is original for Americans(common occurrence in Japan).
I do agree with the misogony. Being asexual I notice this stuff a lot and this is why I cannot look at certain scenes in transformers. Megan Fox in daisy dukes on a bike........, tis fugly I say. I do not even like sex scenes in films yet alone scantly clad women although I do make an exception for Sigourney Weaver