(July 22, 2014 at 3:31 pm)SteveII Wrote: Beauty is a good analogy because objective beauty does exist and our perception of it certainly can't be explained by evolution.
See when you make a statement like this, you have to actually provide evidence for it. Your assertion does not persuade anybody. And here you are factually wrong, evolution does explain beauty.
(July 22, 2014 at 3:31 pm)SteveII Wrote: We perceive a sunset or a mountain vista as beautiful. We perceive some music as beautiful.
Who is we?
(July 22, 2014 at 3:31 pm)SteveII Wrote: If you are suggesting the beauty in a persons face is somehow programmed by evolution, I think that is also wrong. There is no evolutionary value in a pretty face.
Again, explain yourself, stop just asserting things. And yet again, you are factually wrong. A pretty face (much like a peacocks tail) makes them more attractive to the opposite sex and so more likely to mate and produce offspring. Do you actually know anything about evolution?
(July 22, 2014 at 3:31 pm)SteveII Wrote: All that would count is that the opposite sex be young, fertile, and otherwise healthy.
And the only way for a potential mate to know this is by their looks. You really don't know what you are talking about. How about you leave biology and evolution to the biologists yea?
(July 22, 2014 at 3:31 pm)SteveII Wrote: So, just as we have an aesthetic sense, we have a moral sense. By intuition, we know when a situation is right or wrong.No
(July 22, 2014 at 3:31 pm)SteveII Wrote: There are baby studies that show that even infants and toddlers recognize right and wrong. http://www.cnn.com/2014/02/12/us/baby-lab-morals-ac360/
A toddlers morality stretches as far as 'If I don't get caught, its ok'
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'You can have all the faith you want in spirits, and the afterlife, and heaven and hell, but when it comes to this world, don't be an idiot. Cause you can tell me you put your faith in God to put you through the day, but when it comes time to cross the road, I know you look both ways.' - Dr House
“Young earth creationism is essentially the position that all of modern science, 90% of living scientists and 98% of living biologists, all major university biology departments, every major science journal, the American Academy of Sciences, and every major science organization in the world, are all wrong regarding the origins and development of life….but one particular tribe of uneducated, bronze aged, goat herders got it exactly right.” - Chuck Easttom
"If my good friend Doctor Gasparri speaks badly of my mother, he can expect to get punched.....You cannot provoke. You cannot insult the faith of others. You cannot make fun of the faith of others. There is a limit." - Pope Francis on freedom of speech