RE: Is Evolution a science or a faith?
July 26, 2014 at 10:56 am
(This post was last modified: July 26, 2014 at 11:00 am by Harris.)
(July 7, 2014 at 12:11 am)bennyboy Wrote: The problem with evolution is it isn't a thing. It's a way of interpretating the changes in properties of similar things over time.
Agreed.
(July 7, 2014 at 12:11 am)bennyboy Wrote: It's kind of like asking if rainbows are scientific-- there's red--there's blue-- but there's no arbitrary point at which you can say, "See, red has changed into blue."
Agreed.
(July 7, 2014 at 12:11 am)bennyboy Wrote: However, denying evolution is kind of like denying that the samples on a CD represent analog sound. They are a DESCRIPTION of the sound, and the science that goes into reading and writing CDs, making new agorithms for encoding and decoding represented waves, etc., is fine.
I completely agree with your example of new algorithms to code and decode sounds on CD. The only problem left here is that behind making a CD is the intelligent mind whereas Natural Selection is the blind and unguided force that basically work on chance and luck.
(July 7, 2014 at 12:14 am)Thumpalumpacus Wrote: As for the "evolution has never been observed" trope:
http://sciencepicks.wordpress.com/2011/1...es-emerge/
http://triblive.com/usworld/world/548337...z36kjOnkNX
http://www.wired.com/2009/11/speciation-in-action/
etc
All these links have took me to junkyard only. If you are so sure then bring live scientific evidence that apes transformed into humans.
(July 7, 2014 at 5:16 am)Cato Wrote: Humiliation? The word you are looking for is annoyed. Annoyed in the same manner as an adult confronted by a four year old's reason for staying up late to watch R rated movies while gorging on ice cream and coffee.
You are annoyed because you are not in position to refute by using scientific argument.
(July 7, 2014 at 8:57 am)Blackout Wrote: To answer your thread, I must remind everyone I don't know much about physics, chemistry, cosmology or any other exact sciences, just the basis. I can tell you that a theory is an attempt to explain reality trough sustainable evidence, we could argue no theory is 100% true and all facts can be proven wrong with time. Indeed, I've heard the saying that all scientific facts are true unless they are proven wrong in the future. Correct me if I'm wrong but there is not 100% certainty about evolution, however evolution is a lot more likely to be true than any other theory or orientation to explain our species current stage and past development. Evolution can be proven wrong in the future, but this possibility is highly unlikely to happen, a physicist friend of mine told me evolution is not 100% true but it's near perfection.
As for your question 'Is evolution a science or a faith', I'd say it's science (duh)... Not only it was discovered using the scientific method but it relies mostly on inductive evidence to support it's claims. We could talk about faith considering the 1% chance of evolution being wrong, but that's just a minimal faith with little possibility of being right, most 'belief' in evolution is based on proof and doesn't rely on believing what you want... The nice thing about science is that it's true, whether you like it or not.
You are living with a misbelief. I recommend you to read the book,
MIND AND COSMOS
Why the Materialist Neo-Darwinian Conception
of Nature Is Almost Certainly False
by Thomas Nagel (an atheist)