(May 22, 2010 at 6:24 pm)Tiberius Wrote: If that's what he's suggesting then I'm in complete disagreement; but I don't think that is his position at all (I'm prepared to be corrected though). The point we made was that the crime is totally the rapist's; he was the one who committed the act, and should be punished. Responsibility can be shared (though not equally of course) between both parties though; the rapist is responsible for going out and doing the crime in the first place, whilst the woman can share some of the responsibility if she was knowingly irresponsible (i.e. walking home alone, going through bad neighbourhoods, etc).
Another thing I noticed here is that a lot of you seem to be going back to the "well most rapes are done in the home, by people the victim knows", as if this is some kind of point against ours. Whilst this is true, it doesn't have anything to do with what we were originally saying, which was specifically to do with rape that happens because a woman has a lot on show, and is going into a vulnerable situation knowingly. So please, focus on the actual scenarios we are focusing on, rather than coming up with stats that whilst true, bear nothing towards the actual points we were making.
Well maybe you should let Dotard answer me? But your answer is no answer in the legal context I am suggesting i.e a defence of shared responsibility.
And what's with this " us " and " you "? I'm not in a camp.
A man is born to a virgin mother, lives, dies, comes alive again and then disappears into the clouds to become his Dad. How likely is that?