Is Sam Harris becoming a pariah for the anti-religious cause?

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Not nearly as many as there have been Palestinians.

How many? Do you not know?

You say don't fire at the school right? Well they are firing at your schools, do you wait until they kill your children? All the while you get to look weak, and because they think your weak they try harder to kill you.

This is exactly the kind of thought process which makes people have sympathy for Israel. As though they are 'under attack' on anywhere near the scale as what the Palestinians are. As though Hamas and Israel are two powers on a comparable level. What Israeli schools have been bombed by Hamas in this conflict? I must have missed that news story.

This conflict has nothing to do with looking weak, if you think that then you know even less than me about it.


On another note, I just found a rather interesting article (user written article) on the subject:
http://www.news24.com/MyNews24/Palestine...g-20140714

I know Moros would berate me because I'm sitting here not coming up with any solutions. He's berated me for that in the past. Truth is, I don't know what would stop this conflict and indeed if there is even a solution to it. The article I quoted seems to reflect my thoughts on the matter though, and gives a solution that I find to be better than what is going on right now. Perhaps this solution is too idealistic but I do think both sides are in the wrong, however the crucial point that I can see, is that it's Israel who needs to be doing more. It's Israel that should stop the bombing, it's Israel who should make more of an attempt to solve the current oppression that is going on in Palestine. They are the ones who bear more responsibility from what I can see. The barbaric and mindless attitude of "kill them all" that Moros expressed earlier, is still, fucking disgusting IMHO.


With that, I'ma shut up. Probably derailed this thread a fair bit and arguing about any of this is futile.