RE: WHY was Jesus cricified?
August 4, 2014 at 7:39 am
(This post was last modified: August 4, 2014 at 7:43 am by John V.)
(August 1, 2014 at 2:22 pm)RobbyPants Wrote: No definition of "forgive" that I can find involves a payment. It's a flat-out cancellation, going forward. God didn't do that, unless you're saying Jesus' death on the cross was unrelated.You're forgetting your own with respect to's. With respect to humans, God forgives. With respect to Jesus payment was made and justice was served.
Forgive
Quote:And God's notion of justice is arbitrary, and the whole charade was unnecessary.Unnecessary according to your sense of justice. Necessary according to God's.
(August 1, 2014 at 2:15 pm)Jenny A Wrote: Nope, I don't. But I don't think any moral system that allow for the killing of one person in lieu of others in sensible.Your opinion is noted.
Quote:Humans certainly did a number of things in the past that most people would consider immoral now such and the death penalty for pick-pocketing, punishment of sons for the crimes of their fathers. Some Middle Eastern countries still punish women for being raped and sentence men to have their sisters or daughters raped. But most of us have grown beyond that. It appears to me that god has not. ----You'd expect him to be ahead of us rather than behind.Again, your opinion is noted.
Unless you can do something that no one's ever been able to do - prove that your morality is objectively true - then it's nonsensical to use words like beyond and ahead, which imply a final destination.