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Ferguson: too much or not enough?
RE: Ferguson: too much or not enough?
(August 30, 2014 at 7:38 am)Losty Wrote: Would you please point out in that post that you quoted where I made this about race?

And I hold police to higher standards than civilians. If they kill someone for what I don't see as a just reason then yes I call that murder.
I never said anything about anyone's race.

The notoriety of the issue and the protestations of the issue are centered around racism.

The definition of murder is the unlawful killing of someone. Law has everything to do with it, and there is no unimpeached evidence that there was any murder. Higher standards don't apply, as it is either unlawful or not, as it must be in order to be defined it as murder.

Having read many of your posts here, I am positive you are a very nice person and certainly not a racist. I do want to make that very clear. But it is all to easy to get caught up in the emotions of protest propaganda that doesn't fit the facts of the actual occurrence. I furthermore agree with so many here that racism is both alive and well in Ferguson MO as well as most places around the world, and that police detachment and brutality is an extremely big, serious problem in the US. I must in good conscience disagree when any individual is denied a fair trial in the court of public opinion when there is ample evidence that it is unwarranted.

It is a tragedy that Michael Brown did not live and become a good citizen. He made decisions that while they did not of themselves deserve his outcome, they were of high risk of death. If Michael had been run over by the cop car in the middle of the street and killed, we would be saying "why didn't the idiot get out of the road?" The outcome would have been the same but the protests probably wouldn't have occurred. We would certainly not say that jaywalking is worthy of the death penalty, but only an idiot doesn't think jaywalking is dangerous and often ends up with someone dead, and you would rarely call it murder. Bum rushing a previously attacked armed police officer is equally as risky. Michael committed suicide by cop, it wasn't murder.
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Ferguson: too much or not enough? - by Drich - August 14, 2014 at 7:14 pm
RE: Ferguson: much or not enough? - by ShaMan - August 14, 2014 at 7:20 pm
RE: Ferguson: much or not enough? - by Drich - August 14, 2014 at 7:36 pm
RE: Ferguson: too much or not enough? - by rexbeccarox - August 14, 2014 at 8:21 pm
RE: Ferguson: too much or not enough? - by DeistPaladin - August 15, 2014 at 12:35 pm
RE: Ferguson: too much or not enough? - by Polaris - August 15, 2014 at 9:35 pm
RE: Ferguson: too much or not enough? - by Brian37 - August 16, 2014 at 9:51 am
RE: Ferguson: too much or not enough? - by Polaris - August 16, 2014 at 11:45 am
RE: Ferguson: too much or not enough? - by A Theist - September 5, 2014 at 6:13 pm
RE: Ferguson: much or not enough? - by Endo - August 14, 2014 at 7:24 pm
RE: Ferguson: much or not enough? - by Ryantology - August 14, 2014 at 8:10 pm
RE: Ferguson: too much or not enough? - by Napoléon - August 14, 2014 at 8:21 pm
RE: Ferguson: too much or not enough? - by Ryantology - August 14, 2014 at 9:30 pm
RE: Ferguson: too much or not enough? - by Drich - August 14, 2014 at 8:29 pm
RE: Ferguson: too much or not enough? - by Esquilax - August 15, 2014 at 1:59 am
RE: Ferguson: too much or not enough? - by Drich - August 15, 2014 at 9:44 pm
RE: Ferguson: too much or not enough? - by Esquilax - August 16, 2014 at 2:22 am
RE: Ferguson: too much or not enough? - by Jaysyn - August 16, 2014 at 9:05 am
RE: Ferguson: too much or not enough? - by Endo - August 14, 2014 at 9:15 pm
RE: Ferguson: too much or not enough? - by Drich - August 15, 2014 at 9:30 pm
RE: Ferguson: too much or not enough? - by Minimalist - August 15, 2014 at 1:15 am
RE: Ferguson: too much or not enough? - by Jaysyn - August 15, 2014 at 5:44 am
RE: Ferguson: too much or not enough? - by Jaysyn - August 15, 2014 at 6:16 am
RE: Ferguson: too much or not enough? - by Napoléon - August 15, 2014 at 8:25 am
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RE: Ferguson: too much or not enough? - by Brian37 - August 15, 2014 at 9:24 am
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RE: Ferguson: too much or not enough? - by Drich - August 15, 2014 at 10:48 pm
RE: Ferguson: too much or not enough? - by Losty - August 21, 2014 at 3:00 pm
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RE: Ferguson: too much or not enough? - by Brian37 - August 16, 2014 at 12:21 pm
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RE: Ferguson: too much or not enough? - by Drich - August 18, 2014 at 11:29 pm
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RE: Ferguson: too much or not enough? - by Drich - August 19, 2014 at 7:27 pm
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RE: Ferguson: too much or not enough? - by Losty - August 22, 2014 at 12:45 pm
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