Libertarian Socialism

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Meh, I'm not a dem - I'm a non-participant.

They made the pavement and equipment did they? They logged the forests and sawed the timber, they distilled the chemical treatments? Or was that little bit of misery pushed off on somebody else? They subsidized the industries that provided the required materials (to the tune of billions over generations)? Doubt it. I think you're not really looking at the bigger picture that makes something like that an untenable position to be in. They -still- had support from others, even though you nor they were seemingly aware. We're all long...long past island status. We may hide a cost or shuffle it off but it still exists. Somebody has to square away that bill. Even the simplest of projects (like building a shed) relies on the vast and (for american's such as myself anyway) largely out of sight machinery of state. We complain about what we see as though it weren't just the tip of a behemoth iceberg, but the whole enchilada. Hell, the shit we notice probably isn't even the stuff that would effect change in the overall landscape -if it, specifically, were changed-

Don't even get me started on all the maintenance -after- a block has been paved. Sorry bud, but I'm not buying what you've sold yourself regarding your tax contributions. Sounds to me like your buddies anarcho socialism -itself- was subsidized by the state.........damn that state!

You are absolutely correct sir. There is no way any of this could have happened without the large formless organism known as the market. Supply and demand are not bias, but individuals are. That's how you create a market bias. So you are a participant, like it or not.

BTW. My anarchist friends never even talk about anarcho theory. I've probably talked more about it with you guys than them. There is just the social ethic of throwing a party without leaving a mess.
It's a formless theory. There are no contracts or formal agreements. If somebody is being a scum bag you treat them like a scum bag. They'll either correct their behavior or they'll fuck off.
It takes several marketable skills to build your own house. My friends were raised learning those trades from their parents. So they actually have a pick in who they work for, usually they'll go for the job that treats them like an individual, rather than who pays the most. Or they can work for themselves, building their own house if there are no decent jobs.
There's also social barter. I've had my car repaired for the low price of cigarettes and beer. I've helped lay bricks and pour cement for a couch to crash on.

There is nothing radical about libertarian socialism. It doesn't require raging against the machine. It's informing yourself on what that machine is and not feeding it.