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Is there freewill?
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RE: Is there freewill?
(September 15, 2014 at 1:13 pm)Lemonvariable72 Wrote: What what will would happen to the christian religion of there is not? As it is right now the only reason to think there could be freewill is because of the heinzberg uncertainty principle which states that you cannot know where the electron is. This principle was postulated in the 1920s, and has yet to be proven wrong. How ever there is good reason to think it may be wrong, and simply a limitation of our knowledge and technology. If that is the case that mean that according to classical everything has been set in motion since the big bang. In other words no freewill.

Ignoring science/history/archaeology has never proven difficult before.

That isn't really what the uncertainty principle says. You can't know both momentum and position at the same time (these aren't the only properties that cannot be simultaneously be known).
I can't personally think of a way you could test whether someone has free will or not. Take this thought experiment:

1. You ask someone to pick heads or tails
2 You somehow reset the universe (multiple times if needed) and see if the person picks a different option.

I'm not sure if either outcome of this experiment actually shows anything. If the choice is different, it might be that deep down any decision is made fuzzy by the uncertainty principle. But if decisions are just down to a random factor, is this free will?

Does a computer program with a random factor attached to its decision making have free will? Could you tell the difference between this and a human?
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Is there freewill? - by Lemonvariable72 - September 15, 2014 at 1:13 pm
RE: Is there freewill? - by Darkstar - September 15, 2014 at 1:20 pm
RE: Is there freewill? - by Lemonvariable72 - September 15, 2014 at 3:49 pm
RE: Is there freewill? - by fr0d0 - September 15, 2014 at 3:59 pm
RE: Is there freewill? - by Cato - September 15, 2014 at 9:30 pm
RE: Is there freewill? - by The Grand Nudger - September 15, 2014 at 4:12 pm
RE: Is there freewill? - by fr0d0 - September 15, 2014 at 5:40 pm
RE: Is there freewill? - by The Grand Nudger - September 15, 2014 at 5:45 pm
RE: Is there freewill? - by fr0d0 - September 15, 2014 at 5:47 pm
RE: Is there freewill? - by FreeTony - September 15, 2014 at 6:07 pm
RE: Is there freewill? - by Aoi Magi - September 15, 2014 at 7:10 pm
RE: Is there freewill? - by The Grand Nudger - September 15, 2014 at 8:00 pm
RE: Is there freewill? - by Aoi Magi - September 15, 2014 at 8:24 pm
RE: Is there freewill? - by Drich - September 15, 2014 at 9:26 pm
RE: Is there freewill? - by Lemonvariable72 - September 15, 2014 at 10:33 pm
RE: Is there freewill? - by fr0d0 - September 16, 2014 at 3:47 am
RE: Is there freewill? - by Lemonvariable72 - September 16, 2014 at 5:11 am
RE: Is there freewill? - by fr0d0 - September 16, 2014 at 5:25 am
RE: Is there freewill? - by Lemonvariable72 - September 16, 2014 at 5:34 am
RE: Is there freewill? - by fr0d0 - September 16, 2014 at 7:37 am
RE: Is there freewill? - by The Grand Nudger - September 15, 2014 at 9:28 pm
RE: Is there freewill? - by Drich - September 15, 2014 at 11:17 pm
RE: Is there freewill? - by Lemonvariable72 - September 16, 2014 at 12:12 am
RE: Is there freewill? - by Drich - September 16, 2014 at 7:53 am
RE: Is there freewill? - by Lemonvariable72 - September 16, 2014 at 10:14 am
RE: Is there freewill? - by The Grand Nudger - September 16, 2014 at 12:18 am
RE: Is there freewill? - by psychoslice - September 16, 2014 at 12:34 am
RE: Is there freewill? - by Michael B - September 16, 2014 at 3:42 am
RE: Is there freewill? - by robvalue - September 16, 2014 at 4:04 am
RE: Is there freewill? - by FreeTony - September 16, 2014 at 5:21 am
RE: Is there freewill? - by Ben Davis - September 16, 2014 at 7:24 am
RE: Is there freewill? - by RobbyPants - September 16, 2014 at 8:53 am
RE: Is there freewill? - by The Grand Nudger - September 16, 2014 at 10:26 am

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