RE: Heads up advice for atheists.
November 1, 2014 at 2:54 pm
(This post was last modified: November 1, 2014 at 3:07 pm by fr0d0.)
(November 1, 2014 at 2:35 pm)Jenny A Wrote:(October 31, 2014 at 11:11 pm)fr0d0 Wrote: You seem to have a 13 year misunderstanding that theists claim objective evidence of God. You think that scientific proof obtained in a lab has something to do with faith.
No, it's not a misunderstanding. I understand perfectly that you believe without demonstrative evidence. I just find believing without evidence irrational and stupid.
I don't lack evidence. I just lack that evidence. My evidence resides in the realm of intellect. I find it odd that you think what you need your brain to deduce, you find irrational. Yet what you don't need your brain to deduce, you find rational. I suspect we'd have to go a long way back in evolutionary history to find an ape with as limited capabilities as yourself.
(November 1, 2014 at 1:40 pm)Brian37 Wrote:(November 1, 2014 at 11:07 am)fr0d0 Wrote: Brian, I've never known anyone skirt around an issue as deftly as you. Kudos.Skirt around what issue?.
1 The fact that no religion owns science?
2. The fact no one has evidence for the existence of a god?
3. The fact humans mistake rights with credibility of a claim?
1. That's what I'm talking about. Redirecting the problem to a minority misunderstanding
2. Repeatable evidence is illogical - you will ignore this as you always do. Evidence there is, nonetheless.
3. What rights? What claim? See #2. I would hope you respect my right to believe what I rationalise to be true, even if you don't believe the same, rationalising what you believe to be true. I claim to believe in God, as do all other theists. Here's your other blind spot: we don't claim that God exists. We claim belief. Nobody can know.
I don't demand rights. You are at liberty to grant or deny them to me. I will oppose you if you limit my freedom. I grant you your rights, for without those rights you wouldn't be free to believe anything.
I'm with you on limiting religious intrusion on your rights, as I believe that makes religion impotent.