"How Can I Be Happy?" - Humanism Refuted

[JonDarbyXIII]

When talking about objective morality, I have heard a lot of theists quickly throw out the concept of "Well, is rape wrong?" The problem is--why is rape wrong?

That's the whole Euthyphro dilemma, a nice point to bring up with folks who say morality comes from God.

But it even goes a little bit beyond that. More than just 'where do the morals come from' the question is 'why are morals the way they are'. If the theist has any reasoning behind why rape is wrong, then it quickly becomes evident that we don't need God to mandate that. Rape is wrong because [insert any of a number of logical reasons] not "just cuz god said.[/quote]"