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Obesity: five facts
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RE: Obesity: five facts
(November 21, 2014 at 1:09 pm)Manowar Wrote: Maybe you did not understand what I meant. I am a bodybuilder
my world is all about dieting, not a day goes by that I don't count my cals or my macros.
You obviously didn't understand my post. And you think that your world and the rules you've learned about long-term weight maintenance apply to obese people: they don't.
Quote:Simply put, when calories in (what you eat) are greater than calories out (what you burn/exercise off), you gain scale weight. The same is true for scale weight loss: Calories in are less than calories out. Maintenance occurs when the two are equivalent.
I used to believe that, but it's 100% WRONG. All the peer review literature says so, and I went into quite some detail to explain why.
Quote:I got down to 6.2 % Body fat then I did a bulk, now I am cutting again.
It's not hard to do, people just need to do it.
Again, you really don't know what you're talking about. Body fat is generally 87% lipid.

Let's take your numbers - let's assume your starting body fat percentage before training was 20%. After much intensive training and tight Calorie control you get down to 6.2%. The fact is that you did not burn one single adipocyte. What you did is burn the fatty lipids stored in the adipocytes. The connective tissue itself (the adipose tissue) is still there and there is still the same quantity of it by number of adipocyte cells.

Let's take it the opposite way, say you're a healthy fit normal person with a body fat percentage of 20%, and you get overweight. and now the percentage is 25%. What usually happens is that you still have the same number of adipocytes the same quantity of adipose tissue, but you've increased the amount of lipid stored from 87% to 109% (don't worry the adipocytes expand to make room, and they can keep expanding for some time). You have not yet gone beyond the capacity of your pre-existing adiopose tissue.

But once you get obese then we see people at that point about 50% of people have increased their adipose tissue quantity, and as you get larger still there is a much greater chance that your body has now produced new adipose tissue that didn't exist before. The tissue is essentially permanent, and there's a certain amount of lipid that your body wants to store in the adipocytes. So if you're an obese person and you lose weight, your body tells you you're starving - you're going to feel terrible - and ultimately wants to put the weight back on.
Quote:When you lose weight you will feel better about yourself and you once you are used to that lifestyle you will feel better in every other way.
That's the truth.!!!!!
No it isn't. What happens with obese people is their hormones change to make them constantly feel hungry and consequently they'll feel terrible. Why do you think around 50% of people who get bariatric surgery re-stretch their stomachs?
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Obesity: five facts - by Aractus - November 21, 2014 at 8:55 am
RE: Obesity: five facts - by LostLocke - November 21, 2014 at 9:28 am
RE: Obesity: five facts - by Aractus - November 21, 2014 at 9:32 am
RE: Obesity: five facts - by professor - November 21, 2014 at 9:51 am
RE: Obesity: five facts - by Manowar - November 21, 2014 at 10:45 am
Re: RE: Obesity: five facts - by KUSA - November 21, 2014 at 11:07 am
RE: Obesity: five facts - by Aractus - November 21, 2014 at 11:21 am
RE: Obesity: five facts - by Manowar - November 21, 2014 at 1:09 pm
RE: Obesity: five facts - by Aractus - November 21, 2014 at 6:13 pm
RE: Obesity: five facts - by Ryantology - November 21, 2014 at 7:00 pm
RE: Obesity: five facts - by Manowar - November 22, 2014 at 10:25 am
RE: Obesity: five facts - by Ryantology - November 22, 2014 at 3:06 pm
RE: Obesity: five facts - by Aractus - November 22, 2014 at 8:13 pm
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RE: Obesity: five facts - by Aractus - November 23, 2014 at 1:07 am
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RE: Obesity: five facts - by psychoslice - November 26, 2014 at 10:41 pm
RE: Obesity: five facts - by Aractus - November 27, 2014 at 1:21 am
RE: Obesity: five facts - by psychoslice - November 27, 2014 at 1:32 am
RE: Obesity: five facts - by Aractus - November 27, 2014 at 3:23 am
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RE: Obesity: five facts - by psychoslice - November 27, 2014 at 1:53 am
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