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If the universe was fine tuned for our life...
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RE: If the universe was fine tuned for our life...
(November 30, 2014 at 4:55 pm)Heywood Wrote:
(November 30, 2014 at 4:28 pm)Jenny A Wrote: No one has an experience of "realities" coming into existence. This is the only reality any of us has any experience with. And we haven't seen it come into existence. Novels, computer simulations, movies, etc are not really realities. Anyone playing a game is aware that any simulated reality is just a thought experiment played in this universe.

Jenny I have two 30 second videos I would like you to watch. This first one is a video of a creature which evolved in our reality.
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This second one is a video of a creature which evolved in a reality intellects created.(sorry....I thought I could figure out how to post the video starting at the 1 minute 36 second spot and ending about 30 seconds later. Its four minutes long)

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You and I know the second creature is part of our reality....but from the second creatures prespective the larger reality isn't observable so for all intents and purposes it doesn't exist. Now suppose this second creature evolves some intellect and realizes that maybe there is more to reality than meets the eye. It would be perfectly fair of that creature to classify its reality as a sub reality.

First of all and entirely off topic, the second video is a cool simulation of how evolution works.

However, we have not, so far created a sentient being through intellect. Thus we still haven't seen any reality created unequivocally by an intellect, or as would be fairer in the case of the simulation by many many intellects developing technology and understanding through many generations.

The first video reminds me more of Plato's cave thought experiment. That is to say the spider isn't in an sub reality, it is merely fooled by misinterpretations of it's senses. Judging from the way in which it appears to give up, it may even have gotten wise to its misinterpretation, though I doubt it thought, "oh it's a lazar." Wink
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If the universe was fine tuned for our life... - by Lucanus - November 30, 2014 at 1:06 pm
RE: If the universe was fine tuned for our life... - by Nope - November 30, 2014 at 1:25 pm
RE: If the universe was fine tuned for our life... - by IATIA - November 30, 2014 at 1:40 pm
RE: If the universe was fine tuned for our life... - by IATIA - November 30, 2014 at 2:05 pm
RE: If the universe was fine tuned for our life... - by Jenny A - November 30, 2014 at 5:35 pm
RE: If the universe was fine tuned for our life... - by Cato - December 2, 2014 at 7:34 am
RE: If the universe was fine tuned for our life... - by Cato - December 2, 2014 at 11:04 am
RE: If the universe was fine tuned for our life... - by C4RM5 - November 30, 2014 at 1:50 pm
RE: If the universe was fine tuned for our life... - by Cato - November 30, 2014 at 2:22 pm
RE: If the universe was fine tuned for our life... - by Chas - December 1, 2014 at 10:49 am
RE: If the universe was fine tuned for our life... - by Smaug - November 30, 2014 at 2:02 pm
RE: If the universe was fine tuned for our life... - by Smaug - November 30, 2014 at 2:49 pm
RE: If the universe was fine tuned for our life... - by Smaug - November 30, 2014 at 3:02 pm
RE: If the universe was fine tuned for our life... - by IATIA - November 30, 2014 at 3:42 pm
RE: If the universe was fine tuned for our life... - by Smaug - November 30, 2014 at 3:46 pm
RE: If the universe was fine tuned for our life... - by Smaug - November 30, 2014 at 3:50 pm
RE: If the universe was fine tuned for our life... - by Smaug - November 30, 2014 at 4:09 pm
RE: If the universe was fine tuned for our life... - by Smaug - November 30, 2014 at 4:18 pm
RE: If the universe was fine tuned for our life... - by Smaug - November 30, 2014 at 4:25 pm
RE: If the universe was fine tuned for our life... - by Smaug - November 30, 2014 at 5:00 pm
RE: If the universe was fine tuned for our life... - by Smaug - November 30, 2014 at 5:41 pm
RE: If the universe was fine tuned for our life... - by Smaug - November 30, 2014 at 5:56 pm
RE: If the universe was fine tuned for our life... - by Smaug - November 30, 2014 at 6:07 pm
RE: If the universe was fine tuned for our life... - by Smaug - November 30, 2014 at 6:19 pm
RE: If the universe was fine tuned for our life... - by Cato - December 2, 2014 at 1:08 pm
RE: If the universe was fine tuned for our life... - by Cato - December 3, 2014 at 7:24 pm
RE: If the universe was fine tuned for our life... - by IATIA - December 5, 2014 at 12:32 am
RE: If the universe was fine tuned for our life... - by Cato - December 5, 2014 at 2:27 pm
RE: If the universe was fine tuned for our life... - by IATIA - December 5, 2014 at 10:02 pm
RE: If the universe was fine tuned for our life... - by IATIA - December 5, 2014 at 10:21 pm

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