RE: If the universe was fine tuned for our life...
December 2, 2014 at 10:14 am
(This post was last modified: December 2, 2014 at 10:35 am by Heywood.)
(December 2, 2014 at 7:34 am)Cato Wrote: Moving the reason for fine tuning from life to emergent complexities is an amateurish maneuver to avoid addressing anthropic principle rebuttals. This is just kicking the can down the road. Either way, this isn't your biggest concern.
Other than me, how many other theists have you seen claiming that the universe is fine tuned for emergent complexity? Google "fine tuned for emergent complexity" (make sure you include the quotes). As far as I know I am the only theist who contributes to the internet who looks at the universe this way. You know why they do not? Because it means the universe is what is a special creation of God....not life. Life is just byproduct or artifact.
Maybe it is a curse or maybe it is a blessing but I have come to realize that this universe is something special. Only a multi-verse or God can credibly explain it(I have rejected all other explanations I have heard). I lean toward God for reasons stated in this thread and others.
(November 30, 2014 at 5:56 pm)Smaug Wrote: Define reality, subreality and intellect. As for now we're dealing with undefined or heavily under-defined notions.
In order to define "sub reality" I have to use words. When I do...someone will surely ask me to then define the words I used to define "sub reality". Playing dictionary games is not high on my priorities. Maybe if I were writing a book I would give a lot of thought to what a sub reality is in order to give it a proper definition but this is an informal conversation. For my self I consider a sub reality to be like porn. I just know porn is porn and not art when I see it. I know a sub reality is a sub reality and not something else when I see.
That being said, some of you guys have some far out conceptions of sub realities so maybe I need to provide at least some crude definition so you know what I am talking about.
A sub reality is a space continuum that is governed by rules. The space continuum of a subreality is not the space continuum of its parent reality.