RE: Where did the universe come from? Atheistic origin science has no answer.
January 9, 2015 at 8:25 am
(This post was last modified: January 9, 2015 at 8:26 am by The Grand Nudger.)
(January 9, 2015 at 2:26 am)snowtracks Wrote: we observe living, consciousness, emotions, and spiritual; atheism and naturalism are self-defeating in that they demand these attributes originate from the physical. and, nothing matters in the end, no purpose, no justice.No ones ever observed any "spiritual", and neither atheism nor science make any such demands.....but even if we had observed "spiritual" and even if atheism and science -did- make those demands.....it;s still nonsensical to claim that either are self defeating on the grounds you offered.
You don't seem to understand what the term "self defeating" means - so you're probably not qualified to speak on the issue. In true nutball form, however, the less qualified any particular apologist is regarding a given subject the more they have to say about it. Exhibit A - this thread.
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