RE: 'Drich, which of the millions of different christian denominations goes to Heaven?'
January 14, 2015 at 12:58 am
(This post was last modified: January 14, 2015 at 1:01 am by Drich.)
(January 14, 2015 at 12:27 am)Esquilax Wrote: So, it's all good no matter how you stray from your specific version of christianity, Drich, because of that belief in the atonement offered by Jesus is the central tenet that unifies them all... and yet you still get shitty when we dismiss your No True Scotsman exclusions of others that call themselves christian, despite the fact that you're minimizing all differences except the atonement thing here, which presumably those christians you say aren't christians also believe in?
Have you ever had an internally consistent thought in your life?
The problem with your identification of a no true scots man. is the central rule for no true scots man fallacies are that they must speak of a universal claim to a group (no rules concerning the claim.)
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_true_Scotsman
The problem here? There are rules concerning Christianity. Christ Himself say not everyone who calls himself a follower is one. Why? Their are terms and conditions to the faith. What I am saying to those who are outside of worshiping the canonical version of Christ, is they do not have the attonement offered by Him. Without this attonement their offerings are doomed to fail. Why? Because like I said in the OP we all have it wrong to one degree or another, and desperately need the attonement Christ offers to justify our religious efforts.
Again not my words, but the words of Paul to the Church at Galicia, for doing something similar to what the Mormons did.
(January 14, 2015 at 12:30 am)Nope Wrote: What if someone is illiterate and can't read the bible, can't they be saved? If they can be saved than there must be a summary that one person can give another as to what the bare minimum to be a Christian means.
The minimum is based on our indivisual capacities. For you I'm afraid the bar is rather high.. For someone like dry-sand, I think he would be allowed in if he could just pronounce the Name Jesus.
(Parable of the talents)