RE: 'Drich, which of the millions of different christian denominations goes to Heaven?'
January 14, 2015 at 8:31 am
(This post was last modified: January 14, 2015 at 8:35 am by Drich.)
(January 14, 2015 at 7:58 am)Tonus Wrote: Paul sure did like to get the last word in, it seems. But did he specify which gospels were canon? The Bible did not exist when Paul was writing those letters, and there may have been a dozen or two "gospels" by then.luke remember was not a jew, he was a gentile/slave doctor of another man theophilus. He went to find out for his master all he could on Jesus. In his travels he met Paul and became his deciple/understudy. How do we know this? Luke wrote not only the gospel of Luke he also wrote the book of acts. In it chronicals all the apstoles did to establish the church after the gospel accounts end.
So which gospel did Paul endorse? Without a doubt Luke's gospel would have been the gospel of Paul. And since Luke's gospel is in line with the other 3 all four canonical gospels are good.
Quote:And as far as I can tell, nearly every Christian denomination believes in the redemptive sacrifice of Jesus as the basis of salvation. Even JWs, who place Jesus on secondary footing to a fully separate primary deity, believe that salvation is not possible unless one accepts Jesus (not Jehovah) as the instrument by which he is saved. The differences between JWs and other Christian denominations are many, and to some denominations blasphemous. Yet the JWs are clear that no other denomination will be saved from god's wrath, and many of the others consider JWs to be hell-bound.while I personally think that the JW's boarder line don't believe in the canonical Jesus, to say they all aren't christians is not my call to make.
I'm sure there will be a few, like I am sure their will be a few from other non Christian religions who might make it past the pearly gates as well. Why? They meet the requirement of God's command for an all encompassing love.
Quote:There's simply no consensus on such matters, and no real way to settle it because the Bible is too easy to manipulate towards any particular point of view. Even your claim regarding the "rules of Christianity" depends on how you interpret Bible verses. Like I said elsewhere, the problems that this presents is not mine to deal with, but it also doesn't require that I select one particular interpretation and accept it as canon. Honestly, sometimes I wonder if the Bible was written by the George Lucas of its day.The rules aren't 'rules' per say. Their requirements for attonement. Once attonement has been found the 'rules' go out the window.[/quote]
(January 14, 2015 at 8:21 am)Brakeman Wrote:(January 14, 2015 at 12:23 am)Drich Wrote: I have been asked this question so many different times in my last two threads I think it should be posted once and for all.
It's real simple.
All canonical Jesus Christ centered religions are good.
Why?
Attonement.
Please define your meaning of "attonement" so we will be clear.
a·tone
əˈtōn/Submit
verb
make amends or reparation.
"he was being helpful, to atone for his past mistakes"
synonyms: make amends for, make reparation for, make restitution for, make up for, compensate for, pay for, recompense for, expiate, redress, make good, offset; do penance for
"how shall I atone for my mistakes?"
Origin
Middle English (originally in the sense ‘make or become united or reconciled,’ rare before the 16th century): from at one in early use; later by back-formation from atonement.
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(January 14, 2015 at 8:25 am)robvalue Wrote: Making up for being born?
Do you not sin?
The bible does not say being born is a sin. It says having knoweledge of sin and doing the misdeed anyway is a sin.
If you only sin once in your life you need to have that sin attoned for. Otherwise the punishment for that sin is death by hell fire.