(January 31, 2015 at 9:45 pm)Sionnach Wrote:(January 31, 2015 at 9:38 pm)SteveII Wrote: You cannot claim there is no evidence--there is plenty. Four gospels, acts, letters from eyewitnesses John, Peter, and James, add in Paul who knew all these people.
Of course I can claim that there is no evidence.
The bible is no more evidence that its contents are real than a spider-man comic is evidence that its contents are real.
(January 31, 2015 at 9:38 pm)SteveII Wrote: You add in the historical EVIDENCE.
What evidence? You merely using the word evidence does not magically lend credence or power to your unsubstantiated claim.
(January 31, 2015 at 9:38 pm)SteveII Wrote: 1. Why were the gospels written?
2. Why were the letter of Paul, John, Peter and James written?
I cannot claim why it was written unless there was a note specifically left by the author(s) indicating why it was written. All anyone can conjecture in relation to written works is interpretation of what is available. It would be silly of me to claim that the writer wrote what he did about a blue curtain because he was depressed at the time. I can merely interpret the blue curtain in relation to the fictional piece itself.
(January 31, 2015 at 9:38 pm)SteveII Wrote: 3. Why did the early church come up with a religion that was so non-jewish as to cause life and death struggle with the jewish establishment?
Man creates religion for the sole purpose of holding sway over the masses.
(January 31, 2015 at 9:38 pm)SteveII Wrote: 4. How does a real Jesus fit into these events?
Jesus never existed except as a fictional character created to be part of a mythology.
So with a nickname like "Faith's Nightmare" you are going to say:
1. There is no evidence and a good parallel is spiderman
2. I am avoiding your question about how to explain what we do know to be true--the existence of the 27 books, that are not evidence, by saying you don't know why they were written even though they all individually say why they were written.
3. Man creates religion for the sole purpose to hold sway...what? Talk about assertions.
4. and finally, you are going to part with the majority of SECULAR scholars who think that Jesus actually existed and the actual events of his baptism and death by crucifixion are even likely.