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Gaps in theistic arguments. Secular theism vs religious theism

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RE: Gaps in theistic arguments. Secular theism vs religious theism

February 25, 2015 at 4:53 am (This post was last modified: February 25, 2015 at 4:54 am by Pizza.)

At best the argument shows a thing that is not this universe wasn't the unmoved mover, could be another universe that has a different set of laws of motion than this one.

On a related note, if the universe doesn't exist within itself I don't see how it's laws of motion would apply to itself. These kinds of arguments are probably similar to if I was to argue as follows: if my heart is a muscular organ which pumps blood through the blood vessels of the circulatory system then my whole body(the whole set of parts) is a muscular organ which pumps blood through the blood vessels of the circulatory system.

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Gaps in theistic arguments. Secular theism vs religious theism - by Pizza - February 24, 2015 at 7:37 pm

RE: Gaps in theistic arguments. Secular theism vs religious theism - by Neo-Scholastic - February 24, 2015 at 9:10 pm

RE: Gaps in theistic arguments. Secular theism vs religious theism - by Grandizer - February 25, 2015 at 3:59 am

RE: Gaps in theistic arguments. Secular theism vs religious theism - by Alex K - February 25, 2015 at 4:09 am

RE: Gaps in theistic arguments. Secular theism vs religious theism - by Chas - February 25, 2015 at 4:25 pm

RE: Gaps in theistic arguments. Secular theism vs religious theism - by Pizza - February 25, 2015 at 12:16 am

RE: Gaps in theistic arguments. Secular theism vs religious theism - by robvalue - February 25, 2015 at 1:44 am

RE: Gaps in theistic arguments. Secular theism vs religious theism - by Pizza - February 25, 2015 at 2:15 am

RE: Gaps in theistic arguments. Secular theism vs religious theism - by Pizza - February 25, 2015 at 4:11 am

RE: Gaps in theistic arguments. Secular theism vs religious theism - by Alex K - February 25, 2015 at 4:48 am

RE: Gaps in theistic arguments. Secular theism vs religious theism - by Neo-Scholastic - February 25, 2015 at 9:16 am

RE: Gaps in theistic arguments. Secular theism vs religious theism - by Mudhammam - February 25, 2015 at 9:27 am

RE: Gaps in theistic arguments. Secular theism vs religious theism - by Alex K - February 25, 2015 at 3:45 pm

RE: Gaps in theistic arguments. Secular theism vs religious theism - by Grandizer - February 26, 2015 at 12:09 am

RE: Gaps in theistic arguments. Secular theism vs religious theism - by Ravenshire - February 26, 2015 at 12:16 am

RE: Gaps in theistic arguments. Secular theism vs religious theism - by robvalue - February 25, 2015 at 4:26 am

RE: Gaps in theistic arguments. Secular theism vs religious theism - by Pizza - February 25, 2015 at 4:53 am

RE: Gaps in theistic arguments. Secular theism vs religious theism - by Pizza - February 25, 2015 at 9:55 am

RE: Gaps in theistic arguments. Secular theism vs religious theism - by Neo-Scholastic - February 25, 2015 at 11:59 am

RE: Gaps in theistic arguments. Secular theism vs religious theism - by Mudhammam - February 25, 2015 at 2:45 pm

RE: Gaps in theistic arguments. Secular theism vs religious theism - by Neo-Scholastic - February 25, 2015 at 3:24 pm

RE: Gaps in theistic arguments. Secular theism vs religious theism - by Mudhammam - February 25, 2015 at 4:10 pm

RE: Gaps in theistic arguments. Secular theism vs religious theism - by Neo-Scholastic - February 25, 2015 at 5:40 pm

RE: Gaps in theistic arguments. Secular theism vs religious theism - by Grandizer - February 25, 2015 at 11:40 pm

RE: Gaps in theistic arguments. Secular theism vs religious theism - by Pizza - February 25, 2015 at 11:47 pm

RE: Gaps in theistic arguments. Secular theism vs religious theism - by Mudhammam - February 26, 2015 at 2:09 am

RE: Gaps in theistic arguments. Secular theism vs religious theism - by Pizza - February 25, 2015 at 3:43 pm

RE: Gaps in theistic arguments. Secular theism vs religious theism - by robvalue - February 25, 2015 at 4:11 pm

RE: Gaps in theistic arguments. Secular theism vs religious theism - by Pizza - February 25, 2015 at 4:15 pm

RE: Gaps in theistic arguments. Secular theism vs religious theism - by Mudhammam - February 25, 2015 at 4:26 pm

RE: Gaps in theistic arguments. Secular theism vs religious theism - by Pizza - February 25, 2015 at 4:30 pm

RE: Gaps in theistic arguments. Secular theism vs religious theism - by Mudhammam - February 25, 2015 at 4:34 pm

RE: Gaps in theistic arguments. Secular theism vs religious theism - by robvalue - February 25, 2015 at 4:28 pm

RE: Gaps in theistic arguments. Secular theism vs religious theism - by Pizza - February 25, 2015 at 8:47 pm

RE: Gaps in theistic arguments. Secular theism vs religious theism - by Neo-Scholastic - February 25, 2015 at 8:58 pm

RE: Gaps in theistic arguments. Secular theism vs religious theism - by Pizza - February 25, 2015 at 10:09 pm

RE: Gaps in theistic arguments. Secular theism vs religious theism - by Neo-Scholastic - February 25, 2015 at 11:53 pm

RE: Gaps in theistic arguments. Secular theism vs religious theism - by Pizza - February 26, 2015 at 2:05 am

RE: Gaps in theistic arguments. Secular theism vs religious theism - by Neo-Scholastic - February 26, 2015 at 10:34 am

RE: Gaps in theistic arguments. Secular theism vs religious theism - by Mudhammam - February 26, 2015 at 11:25 am

RE: Gaps in theistic arguments. Secular theism vs religious theism - by Faith No More - February 26, 2015 at 11:44 am

RE: Gaps in theistic arguments. Secular theism vs religious theism - by Esquilax - February 26, 2015 at 12:25 pm

RE: Gaps in theistic arguments. Secular theism vs religious theism - by Pizza - February 26, 2015 at 4:37 pm

RE: Gaps in theistic arguments. Secular theism vs religious theism - by Esquilax - February 26, 2015 at 2:09 am

RE: Gaps in theistic arguments. Secular theism vs religious theism - by The Reality Salesman - February 26, 2015 at 12:27 am

RE: Gaps in theistic arguments. Secular theism vs religious theism - by robvalue - February 26, 2015 at 3:53 am

RE: Gaps in theistic arguments. Secular theism vs religious theism - by The Reality Salesman - February 26, 2015 at 9:28 am

RE: Gaps in theistic arguments. Secular theism vs religious theism - by robvalue - February 26, 2015 at 10:46 am

RE: Gaps in theistic arguments. Secular theism vs religious theism - by Neo-Scholastic - February 26, 2015 at 4:26 pm

RE: Gaps in theistic arguments. Secular theism vs religious theism - by Esquilax - February 26, 2015 at 5:00 pm

RE: Gaps in theistic arguments. Secular theism vs religious theism - by Neo-Scholastic - February 26, 2015 at 5:23 pm

RE: Gaps in theistic arguments. Secular theism vs religious theism - by Angrboda - February 26, 2015 at 5:50 pm

RE: Gaps in theistic arguments. Secular theism vs religious theism - by Neo-Scholastic - February 26, 2015 at 6:59 pm

RE: Gaps in theistic arguments. Secular theism vs religious theism - by Mudhammam - February 26, 2015 at 5:55 pm

RE: Gaps in theistic arguments. Secular theism vs religious theism - by Pizza - February 26, 2015 at 7:39 pm

RE: Gaps in theistic arguments. Secular theism vs religious theism - by Neo-Scholastic - February 26, 2015 at 9:16 pm

RE: Gaps in theistic arguments. Secular theism vs religious theism - by Pizza - February 26, 2015 at 9:37 pm

RE: Gaps in theistic arguments. Secular theism vs religious theism - by Neo-Scholastic - February 26, 2015 at 9:41 pm

RE: Gaps in theistic arguments. Secular theism vs religious theism - by The Reality Salesman - February 27, 2015 at 12:33 am

RE: Gaps in theistic arguments. Secular theism vs religious theism - by Pizza - February 26, 2015 at 11:38 pm

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