(February 26, 2015 at 12:58 pm)Ignorant Wrote: I assure you that it is not the round-about way that you suspect. Speaking about goodness in this way does not even demonstrate that there is, in fact, some single thing which IS goodness itself. All it means is that goodness is understood as that aspect of things which humans judge to be satisfying of particular human hungers/appetites/desires (e.g. the hungers for food, survival, reproduction, community, justice, love, etc.). It is strictly about goodness.
Human experience shows us that nothing in this universe seems to sate all of our desires. This means that everything in this universe is only good under one or more aspects (i.e. every object/thing is only "partially" good when considered "in itself"). So either goodness, i.e. something that is good under any and every aspect, exists "somewhere", or it doesn't.
First, "Goodness itself" must be shown, if possible, to exist. Then, it would have to be shown that "goodness itself" and "god" can be rationally said to be the same thing. Necessarily, that would require either that it can be shown that god is the thing that satisfies all human desire. Seeing as that would require a great deal of work, common agreement on terms and concepts, and a lengthy exchange with a high chance of misunderstanding, I wouldn't hold your breath while waiting for it to come!
For one god by definition is Amoral meaning he can and has in the bible done more bad than good so no god isn't good god is evil.
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