(March 10, 2015 at 12:28 pm)Alex K Wrote:(March 10, 2015 at 12:26 pm)SteveII Wrote: So, there is no intrinsic meaning, value or purpose to anything? We have to make it up? So...the "noble lie"?There is no lie.
It's only a lie if you deny how you obtained your ethics.
An how does an atheist obtain ethics?