(March 11, 2015 at 5:13 pm)ChadWooters Wrote: All you have done is push the problem back the self-interest in preserving the tribe (often to the exclusion of other tribes). So the next step is to push it onto the overall survival of Mankind. Then, I suppose to all sentient species. At each level, the motivating principle is self-interest, although at the higher levels it is an ‘enlightened’ self-interest.
Yep. I'm basically saying that all of these people focusing on individual self interest are misrepresenting what's really in our best interest. That said, since as I've explained morality necessarily concerns itself with thinking agents, this still aligns with a proper understanding of moral goodness.
Quote:How is it even possible for to group particular things into universal categories within the framework of naturalism (your version of reality)?
... Common traits and characteristics? You know, the definition of what a category is?
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Quote: The foundation of your moral system crumples if it isn’t grounded in a metaphysics that is compatible with things, like human beings and moral agents, having essential natures.
Okay so, I'm getting tired of saying this to you over and over, but an assertion isn't an argument. But more importantly, what you're saying makes literally no sense at all: we can't recognize commonalities unless those commonalities belong to beings that are magic? How the hell does that even follow?
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