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The argument against God
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RE: The argument against God
(January 17, 2009 at 5:23 am)dagda Wrote: Perhaps I should clarify my thoughts on god (as LukeMC suggests). My belife is very complex and time consuming to explain hence I will simplify and minimalise as best I can.

Outwith space-time there is a source. The Tao if you will. This is the source of all that exists and all that does not (as things outwith space-time don't exist in any way that would be familure to the material world). Whether this Tao has any concious thought is beond me.
Anyway, from the source sprung Aeons. The closest comparison would be angels, I suppose, but not quite. One of these Aeons we can call Sophia. She created the material world (for what reason I do not know-perhaps a mistake or a well meaning experiment?) and the Hebrew God to watch over it (who we shall name Ildaboath).

The Ildaboath formed the material world into what we would know it as (although I think Eden may be symbolic of this creation rather than a litteral truth). He is not evil, per say, but actually thinks he is the one true God. He is imperfect and arogant and in his creation of the world and humanity in particular, this rubbed off (he has the same flaws as humanity, just more powerful).
The aim of humanity should be to escape the material world and the Aeons (or some of them, at leasr) have been attenpting to aid us in this quest at various times (serpent in Eden, Christ ect). However, we must not put all our hopes in the Aeons, we must escape on our own steam for the most part.

I could back all this up with textual evidence from the bible but I feel this would bore you all.

That's a nice little myth there, but that's all it is. Until you can verify that it is more than your imagination that is all it is to anyone else and we don't have disprove your belief.

The bible is not and never will be evidence. It's is a book that is written by hundreds of different anonymous writers where the stories have been edited, forged, smooshed together, etc... It contradicts itself, promotes atrocities, and has historical inaccuracies, and has pretty much no corroborating evidence for it's claims like the great flood, Jesus, etc... All the bible does is tell boring stories and claims it's from God. I'm sorry but the bible saying it's the word of god and you believing it because it says so is circular theory. And anyone can use the bible to back up whatever belief they hold, so it's not evidence in the slightest.
"The way to see by faith is to shut the eye of reason." Benjamin Franklin

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The argument against God - by dagda - January 16, 2009 at 12:08 pm
RE: The argument against God - by LukeMC - January 16, 2009 at 12:10 pm
RE: The argument against God - by Demonaura - January 16, 2009 at 12:45 pm
RE: The argument against God - by Eilonnwy - January 16, 2009 at 12:50 pm
RE: The argument against God - by lukec - January 16, 2009 at 4:57 pm
RE: The argument against God - by josef rosenkranz - January 16, 2009 at 2:29 pm
RE: The argument against God - by dagda - January 17, 2009 at 5:23 am
RE: The argument against God - by Eilonnwy - January 17, 2009 at 12:14 pm
RE: The argument against God - by DD_8630 - January 17, 2009 at 12:28 pm
RE: The argument against God - by Ace Otana - January 17, 2009 at 12:36 pm
RE: The argument against God - by Darwinian - January 17, 2009 at 5:31 am
RE: The argument against God - by True Unbeliever - January 18, 2009 at 12:53 am
RE: The argument against God - by dagda - January 19, 2009 at 11:50 am
RE: The argument against God - by DD_8630 - January 19, 2009 at 2:12 pm
RE: The argument against God - by leo-rcc - January 19, 2009 at 2:20 pm
RE: The argument against God - by leo-rcc - January 19, 2009 at 12:10 pm
RE: The argument against God - by dagda - January 19, 2009 at 3:59 pm
RE: The argument against God - by DD_8630 - January 19, 2009 at 4:21 pm
RE: The argument against God - by lilphil1989 - January 19, 2009 at 4:29 pm
RE: The argument against God - by leo-rcc - January 19, 2009 at 4:49 pm
RE: The argument against God - by Eilonnwy - January 19, 2009 at 4:50 pm
RE: The argument against God - by True Unbeliever - January 20, 2009 at 2:03 am
RE: The argument against God - by dagda - January 20, 2009 at 10:14 am
RE: The argument against God - by leo-rcc - January 20, 2009 at 10:28 am
RE: The argument against God - by Eilonnwy - January 20, 2009 at 3:05 pm
RE: The argument against God - by Tiberius - January 20, 2009 at 3:39 pm
RE: The argument against God - by dagda - January 20, 2009 at 2:01 pm
RE: The argument against God - by DD_8630 - January 20, 2009 at 2:14 pm
RE: The argument against God - by Rob - January 20, 2009 at 3:19 pm
RE: The argument against God - by Demonaura - January 20, 2009 at 3:48 pm
RE: The argument against God - by Eilonnwy - January 20, 2009 at 3:58 pm
RE: The argument against God - by DD_8630 - January 20, 2009 at 4:05 pm
RE: The argument against God - by Tiberius - January 20, 2009 at 4:02 pm
RE: The argument against God - by Eilonnwy - January 20, 2009 at 4:10 pm
RE: The argument against God - by bozo - January 20, 2009 at 6:22 pm
RE: The argument against God - by DD_8630 - January 21, 2009 at 2:20 pm
RE: The argument against God - by bozo - January 21, 2009 at 3:30 pm
RE: The argument against God - by DD_8630 - January 21, 2009 at 3:45 pm
RE: The argument against God - by bozo - January 21, 2009 at 3:49 pm
RE: The argument against God - by Eilonnwy - January 21, 2009 at 3:05 pm
RE: The argument against God - by CoxRox - January 21, 2009 at 5:10 pm
RE: The argument against God - by Tiberius - January 21, 2009 at 5:34 pm
RE: The argument against God - by bozo - January 21, 2009 at 8:20 pm
RE: The argument against God - by CoxRox - January 22, 2009 at 3:59 am
RE: The argument against God - by DD_8630 - January 22, 2009 at 6:35 am
RE: The argument against God - by True Unbeliever - January 22, 2009 at 2:53 am
RE: The argument against God - by LukeMC - January 21, 2009 at 4:11 pm
RE: The argument against God - by leo-rcc - January 22, 2009 at 6:17 am
RE: The argument against God - by CoxRox - January 22, 2009 at 7:52 am
RE: The argument against God - by Eilonnwy - January 22, 2009 at 9:24 am
RE: The argument against God - by CoxRox - January 22, 2009 at 9:59 am
RE: The argument against God - by nobelives - January 23, 2009 at 1:34 am
RE: The argument against God - by True Unbeliever - January 23, 2009 at 5:09 am
RE: The argument against God - by Darwinian - January 23, 2009 at 5:13 am
RE: The argument against God - by Tiberius - January 23, 2009 at 5:23 am
RE: The argument against God - by leo-rcc - January 23, 2009 at 5:36 am
RE: The argument against God - by Edwardo Piet - January 23, 2009 at 11:04 am
RE: The argument against God - by Ace Otana - January 23, 2009 at 11:26 am
RE: The argument against God - by Eilonnwy - January 23, 2009 at 12:09 pm
RE: The argument against God - by nobelives - January 23, 2009 at 12:22 pm
RE: The argument against God - by leo-rcc - January 23, 2009 at 12:36 pm
RE: The argument against God - by CoxRox - January 23, 2009 at 1:30 pm
RE: The argument against God - by lilphil1989 - January 23, 2009 at 1:46 pm
RE: The argument against God - by CoxRox - January 23, 2009 at 1:56 pm
RE: The argument against God - by lilphil1989 - January 23, 2009 at 2:28 pm
RE: The argument against God - by leo-rcc - January 23, 2009 at 3:01 pm
RE: The argument against God - by Ace Otana - January 23, 2009 at 9:03 pm
RE: The argument against God - by CoxRox - January 23, 2009 at 3:08 pm
RE: The argument against God - by lilphil1989 - January 23, 2009 at 3:35 pm
RE: The argument against God - by Giff - January 24, 2009 at 8:25 am
RE: The argument against God - by Rob - January 24, 2009 at 9:09 am
RE: The argument against God - by Ace Otana - January 24, 2009 at 10:18 am
RE: The argument against God - by Tiberius - January 24, 2009 at 10:04 am
RE: The argument against God - by Tiberius - January 24, 2009 at 10:25 am
RE: The argument against God - by CoxRox - January 24, 2009 at 12:08 pm
RE: The argument against God - by DD_8630 - January 24, 2009 at 5:13 pm
RE: The argument against God - by CoxRox - January 24, 2009 at 5:42 pm
RE: The argument against God - by DD_8630 - January 25, 2009 at 7:49 am
RE: The argument against God - by CoxRox - January 25, 2009 at 3:13 pm
RE: The argument against God - by Darwinian - January 24, 2009 at 12:19 pm
RE: The argument against God - by CoxRox - January 24, 2009 at 3:43 pm
RE: The argument against God - by LukeMC - January 24, 2009 at 4:19 pm
RE: The argument against God - by Darwinian - January 24, 2009 at 3:56 pm
RE: The argument against God - by Darwinian - January 24, 2009 at 4:24 pm
RE: The argument against God - by Tiberius - January 24, 2009 at 4:25 pm
RE: The argument against God - by Edwardo Piet - January 24, 2009 at 9:23 pm
RE: The argument against God - by Darwinian - January 24, 2009 at 7:52 pm
RE: The argument against God - by True Unbeliever - January 24, 2009 at 11:34 pm
RE: The argument against God - by chatpilot - January 25, 2009 at 1:06 am
RE: The argument against God - by lukec - January 26, 2009 at 12:29 pm

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