Proof of God

[Harris]

Did you answer my question about what I'm meant to actually do to "give thanks" to this creator? You clearly judge me for selfishly accepting the universe as it is, yet if you have no more idea than I do how to communicate with the creator, what is your point? Science has failed to answer this question completely, should I just be making random guesses?

If you have no suggestion at all, then I'm back where I already was, creator or no creator makes no practical difference.

My life is shit, by the way. Any creator which is interacting and has the power to help me is pretty powerless, or else is horrid and doesn't deserve worship.

Until you force your mind to think that Universe and your own being are the outcome of chance, nothingness, or accident and contradict the reality for the sake of your personal convenience, you are trying to eliminate God from your mind set because that is fortunate and beneficial in your personal opinion.

Having doubt in the existence of God, if you pay gratitude to God because you have no other option left to get rid of your pain and anxiety then that gratitude is a hypocrisy.

If you want to pay sincere gratitude to God then use your intuition to understand the reality of universe and your own self for the reason that intuition is the cleanest form of knowledge.

God’s help is for everyone who seeks it with sincere intentions. He may help you by means of putting sympathy in people’s hearts or by making beneficial circumstances for you. However, if your intentions are not sincere then you are at the risk to forget God in place of paying Him more gratitude right after you get relief from your calamity.

“Now, when trouble touches man, he cries to Us: But when We bestow a favour upon him as from Ourselves, he says, "This has been given to me because of a certain knowledge (I have)!" Nay, but this is but a trial, but most of them understand not!”
Az-Zumar (39)
-Verse 49

In the light of the above verse if you closely analyse calamity then it is obvious that calamity brings person closer to God and makes purpose of life clearer. Therefore, I see at calamity as mercy and guidance of God for those who totally forget the day of judgment.

Frankly speaking, if I come across the knowledge that you doubt in my empathy then I will never think of helping you. However, God helps everyone who is in trouble and who asks for His help. God helps even knowingly whether a person is sincere in his/her intensions or not.


“O ye who believe! Seek help with patient perseverance and prayer; for Allah is with those who patiently persevere.”
Al Baqarah (2)
-Verse 153-


"And those whom you call upon besides Him (Allah) cannot help you nor can they help themselves."
Al A'raf (7)
-Verse 197-


"(And to preach thus), 'Seek ye the forgiveness of your Lord, and turn to Him in repentance; that He may grant you enjoyment, good (and true), for a term appointed, and bestow His abounding grace on all who abound in merit! But if ye turn away, then I fear for you the penalty of a great day:”
Huud (11)
-Verse 3-


“Covetous over you. Then when fear comes, thou wilt see them looking to thee, their eyes revolving, like (those of) one over whom hovers death: but when the fear is past, they will smite you with sharp tongues, covetous of goods. Such men have no faith, and so Allah has made their deeds of none effect: and that is easy for Allah.”
Al Ahzab (33)
-Verse 19-

What if nothing has a beginning?
You ever thought of that?

We cannot reason inductively about nothingness since we have no instances with which to start.

Me... I'm a high-level object made of of many low-level objects. Sadly, the way they assemble to make me is ephemeral.

And no, matter is not eternal... but energy is... apparently.

Like Lavoisier said "Nothing is lost, nothing is created, everything is transformed".
Quantum vacuum does break this nice rule once in a while, though...

Quantum Field Theory
In quantum field theory, the vacuum state (also called the vacuum) is the quantum state with the lowest possible ENERGY.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vacuum_state

Quantum Fluctuation
In quantum physics, a quantum fluctuation (or quantum vacuum fluctuation or vacuum fluctuation) is the temporary change in the amount of ENERGY in a point in space as explained in Werner Heisenberg's uncertainty principle.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantum_fluctuation

Thanks to E = MC^2 that has provided us a profound understanding that without ENERGY there would not be any matter in the universe.

I do not think ENERGY is equal to NOTHINGNESS and I do not think that any scientist think that ENERGY is NOTHINGNESS.

Here arises another question:

What is the origin of this ENERGY?

Harris Wrote:
You are trying to assimilate something, which is mindless as the foundation to develop your mindful arguments. Amusing!

Pocaracas Wrote:
Amusing how you cannot grasp the notion that highly complex high-level processing is what you call consciousness...

And it all goes on your brain.

Consciousness is:

a. Knowledge in general,
b. intentionality,
c. Introspection (and the knowledge it specifically generates) and
d. Phenomenal experience.

Which one of these topics has the element of mindlessness?

1. who said I'm not aware of what life is?

Why we take conscious decisions? What keeps our bodies lively?

2. Who said I'm not aware of what death is?

Only dead can tell what death is and I think you are still alive.

3. I know very well what a sensory input is.

Perhaps you know the mechanics of sensory system and I do not argue on that but can you or anyone interpret what actually SENSE is.

4. I'm quite aware of what consciousness is.

Wow! I am keen to hear about that.

Please explain what experiences are, such as tastings and seeing; bodily-sensational experiences, such as those of pains, tickles and itches; imaginative experiences, such as those of one’s own actions or perceptions; and streams of thought, as in the experience of thinking ‘in words’ or ‘in images’.

5. I know why I sleep... if you don't know why you sleep, then maybe you should try sleep deprivation for a week or two.

Science has no definition for sleep.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/science/humanbody/s...leep.shtml

6. Gravity is a force exerted on all matter and by all matter, proportional to the amount of matter and inversely proportional to the distance between the two pieces of matter.

Do not overlook the fact that the law of gravity is based only on experience.

“Gravity must be Caused by an Agent acting constantly according to certain laws, but whether that agent be material or immaterial I leave to the consideration of my readers”
(Newton’s Letter to Bentley 25 February 1692).

7. The known universe is finite. The unknown universe could be many things and infinite is one of them... who knows?

My question was “Is the universe finite or infinite?” and
Your answer is “Who knows?”

Harris Wrote:
You believe in all those unknown things without knowing them but you are reluctant to use your logic to realise an obvious fact that:

Why there is something rather than nothing?

pocaracas Wrote:
Why do you was a "why" question?
Don't you think you're intentionally poisoning the well?

"Why" presupposes some sort of reasoning behind the fact. If the chain of events leading to there being matter was mindless, then no reason can be invoked and the "why" becomes moot...

I admit it's common for human language to ask a "why" question when they mean to ask a "how" question... is this what you're doing?

The "how" refers you back to the present state-of-the-art theory on this: quantum vacuum. Maybe it's wrong, maybe it needs a lot of tweaking to be right, maybe it needs to be completely scrapped and replaced by something far better... But, nowadays, it's the best we have.

Let us first analyse “present state-of-the-art theory: the fabulous Quantum Vacuum.”

If you bring Quantum Vacuum to describe origin of universe out of nothing then you or anyone who supports this idea is a deluded person.

Quantum Vacuum has PHYSICAL PROPERTIES and so it is not NOTHINGNESS.

Now come to the “Why” and “How” problem.

G.W.F. Leibniz rightly asked, "Why is there something rather than nothing?"

This question is rather an expression of wonderment that there is a world in the first place, when there could presumably quite easily have been nothing.

Leibniz’s question is based on the principle of sufficient reason:

“No fact can exist without a sufficient reason for its existence.”

No one lives as if the principle of sufficient reason is false. The principle presupposes the existence of reason. When one argues against the principle, he/she begins to question the existence of reason itself. The conundrum of using reason to argue against the existence of reason appears odd if not self-defeating. The intelligibility of physical reality appears to require the principle of sufficient reason.

Everything that exists is either contingent or necessary. A contingent thing depends on something else for its existence. In contrast to a contingent thing, a necessary thing does not depend on anything for its existence. A contingent thing can be otherwise, but a necessary thing cannot be otherwise. A necessary thing cannot be anything except what it is; its existence is indefeasible and cannot be taken away.

If you closely analyse Leibniz’s question there you will find a certain element of humour.

The fact that one can ask this question only if the questioner already exists shows that the possibility of requesting a reason for the persistence of every existent is absurd. Now, that there is necessarily some existent is different from the statement that existence of the Necessary Existent is phenomenologically prior to all other concepts.

“Wert thou to follow the common run of those on earth, they will lead thee away from the way of Allah. They follow nothing but conjecture: they do nothing but lie.”
Al An'am (6)
-Verse 116-

“But most of them follow nothing but fancy: truly fancy can be of no avail against truth. Verily Allah is well aware of all that they do.”
Yunus (10)
-Verse 36-


“And they say: "What is there but our life in this world? We shall die and we live, and nothing but time can destroy us." But of that they have no knowledge: they merely conjecture:”
Al Jaatsiyah (45)
-Verse 24-


“Verily We have propounded for men, in this Qur'an every kind of Parable: But if thou bring to them any Sign, the Unbelievers are sure to say, "Ye do nothing but talk vanities."
Ar Ruum (30)
-Verse 58-