RE: If I were an Atheist
April 5, 2015 at 6:35 am
(This post was last modified: April 5, 2015 at 6:41 am by The Grand Nudger.)
Those "specifications" that you think are exact are, just as one example, in the range of 3 au....
3...fucking, au man......thats nearly half a million k. For reference there's enough elbow room for a dozen earths unraveled and layed out flat like a sheet of paper in that range in every minute (lets not even talk about the total area of the range.....) - and that range is just about to the point where it;s been disputed beyond any reason to accept it. Just here, in our solar system, we have examples of things that don't fit with that range. Water where it "shouldn't be" - if we only went by our exacting specifications for life. That's generally the problem with these fine tuning claims. They omit that the tuning aint so fine, or only -sounds- fine when you condense half a million kilometers into 3 units of measure.
Or, for flavor, the cosmo constant argument can be boiled down to "if the universe were different..the universe would be different" - yeah, no shit. "If the universe were different, I would not be here to ask the question" - yeah....no shit.......
-And yes, understanding that there is no requirement for a creator, and that these "mindless forces" are both capable of producing us...and that they -did- produce us..that this is the position in evidence puts your ghosts and gremlins in a decidely more miraculous camp....particularly in that there are no miracles -at all- in the "mindless forces" camp........nary a single magical being to be found therein.
3...fucking, au man......thats nearly half a million k. For reference there's enough elbow room for a dozen earths unraveled and layed out flat like a sheet of paper in that range in every minute (lets not even talk about the total area of the range.....) - and that range is just about to the point where it;s been disputed beyond any reason to accept it. Just here, in our solar system, we have examples of things that don't fit with that range. Water where it "shouldn't be" - if we only went by our exacting specifications for life. That's generally the problem with these fine tuning claims. They omit that the tuning aint so fine, or only -sounds- fine when you condense half a million kilometers into 3 units of measure.
Or, for flavor, the cosmo constant argument can be boiled down to "if the universe were different..the universe would be different" - yeah, no shit. "If the universe were different, I would not be here to ask the question" - yeah....no shit.......
-And yes, understanding that there is no requirement for a creator, and that these "mindless forces" are both capable of producing us...and that they -did- produce us..that this is the position in evidence puts your ghosts and gremlins in a decidely more miraculous camp....particularly in that there are no miracles -at all- in the "mindless forces" camp........nary a single magical being to be found therein.
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