RE: We are no different than computers
April 23, 2015 at 1:06 pm
(This post was last modified: April 23, 2015 at 1:09 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
That would be an ancillary concern, with regards to determining what does or does not possess mind. If want to have that discussion we'd have to have some way of lumping "mindful" things on one side and "mindless" things on another. It's a good question. I think that if we had other minds to consider we might even come up with better ideas about our -own- rights and legal protections.
I would not, even presented with a machine mind, think that granting the machine mind all of the rights granted to human persons would be an immediate concern. Why would I? They aren't human beings (our rough current template for a "person") and so would not necessarily be concerned with , inconvenienced, or liberated by what concerns, inconveniences, or liberates us. I think that some things would or could be shared, and in those instances a cse could be made...but, again, none of this helps us to determine what machines are or are not capable of (or even the nature of our own minds.)
@ Ex. The attempts we make at AI are task oriented..they are designed to beat the test...and the test is, to some degree...a test of "humanity". So...that's what they mimic. Course...thats what we mimic too...so...idk.... There are folks trying to get away from this paradigm, of course.
I would not, even presented with a machine mind, think that granting the machine mind all of the rights granted to human persons would be an immediate concern. Why would I? They aren't human beings (our rough current template for a "person") and so would not necessarily be concerned with , inconvenienced, or liberated by what concerns, inconveniences, or liberates us. I think that some things would or could be shared, and in those instances a cse could be made...but, again, none of this helps us to determine what machines are or are not capable of (or even the nature of our own minds.)
Quote:As far as my objections, I'm just skeptical that we can define mind in computational terms and not lose an essential element of what it means to be human in the fullest sense.Fixed that for you.........but...we're talking comp -mind-..not comp -human-. We can have that convo though...I'm pretty good at reducing human pretension while simultaneously being an exemplary expression -of it-...lol.
@ Ex. The attempts we make at AI are task oriented..they are designed to beat the test...and the test is, to some degree...a test of "humanity". So...that's what they mimic. Course...thats what we mimic too...so...idk.... There are folks trying to get away from this paradigm, of course.
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