(January 23, 2009 at 1:34 am)nobelives Wrote: Hi, there should be no arguments about god existence, is just enough to remember where does the word "atheism" came from. It came from the possible fact that people needs and belives in a force or persons or whatever people believed through history and cultures, but it doesn´t mean god is real or is the exactly representation of those belives. Is so simple than think about this forum, if a lot of people doesn´t think god is real, this forum should never exist. If we think about a kind of philosophical existense of god, or as a word, is obvious it really exist in almost all cultures; and when some body that belives in god do something because of his or her god, they are making to god to exist, at least in the mind or in the thing people do because their belives just as we make atheism to exist. The power of god is really the power of people to belive and do things because of those belives, even kill other people when their religion said and ask to not to kill. And exactly there is where the confusing or paradoxical facts appears.
We can say god is this or that, but really, seems like we are sures to have the absolut true, but is not real, is just something we think or feel. I prefer to think that we as specie can be so immerse in the childhood of humanity and as a child or a teen we think to know everything but really we are not even ready to know such a big true as god existence.
The real argument against god are all the people, even those who belives in god and rape their own belives, the arguments are the paradoxes, all the diferent religion that do stupid and even inhuman things to preserve themselves. The people who seems to feel to be god and know everything we don´t know yet. We think we have the absolut true, and as some body said some day:
Until the philosophy which hold one race superior
And another
Inferior
Is finally
And permanently
Discredited
And abandoned...
*(Haile Selassie speech for organization of african unity)
if we change the word race for religion, the frase above have the same signification, we are all wrong, and we should not kill, bother, abuse or try to change anybody. There is an entire life to know the true, and is very posible to us to never know any true about god; i sugest the adventure and the chalenge is to survive through all the diferences we have and walk together to the true without think our true is the absolut true in universe, come on... and i understand i can be wrong too, but we don´t know really, right?
You lost me after 'Hi'...sorry I did try
"'God is as real as I am', the old man said. I was relieved since I knew Santa wouldn't lie to me."