(June 7, 2015 at 9:33 am)Britney blue Wrote:(June 7, 2015 at 9:20 am)LastPoet Wrote: It is impossible to stump a christian, they are always willing to pull more bullshit out of their asses to justify their inane beliefs.
If stumping a Christian doesn't work just remind them that Jesus was a bastard...
Britney-
That's not a terribly effective point. Christians would be respond by pointing out that the Jews did not see it that way.
Mary and Joseph were married at the time he was born, and numerous passages of scripture indicate that Jesus was received into the community, the synagogues and the Temple. The Pharisees even called him "Rabbi". But the law of Moses forbids the admission of bastards:
Deuteronomy 23: 2
A bastard shall not enter into the congregation of the LORD; even to his tenth generation shall he not enter into the congregation of the LORD.
Jesus was accused of many things including blasphemy, but he was not accused of being a bastard.
It's also possible that a knowledgeable Christian might turn this around on you by saying:
Quote:Let's suppose for a moment that this accusation is true. The fact that this embarrassing detail was included in the gospels makes them more believable because the authors told the truth. This is just one of many examples of how the gospels prove themselves to be historically reliable: they meet the criterion of embarrassment.
So, doesn't this give you some reason to accept that what the gospels say might be true?