Why be good?

[Randy Carson]

So did Luke.

I'm sorry, who?  You mean the pseudographical writer who wrote "Luke's" gospel?

Rhetorical question.  I really don't want you to answer.

I'm sure you don't. Your boat is full of holes, taking on water and you can't bail fast enough.

Luke. You know the undisputed author of the gospel and the Book of Acts? Yeah, just keep telling yourself that Luke is pseudographical. You might even want to dig out some of those books you read a few years ago and page through them again...just to settle your rattled nerves. Maybe a quick refresher will remind you of how "intellectually satisfying"   your atheist position is.

So, if it were undeniably demonstrated that the gospels are true, you wouldn't care?

Why not?

Because I refuse to worship evil and call it good, that's why.  The reason I am no longer a Christian has nothing to do with the veracity of that foul book you worship.  It has to do with the contents of it, and the nature of what you and your ilk deem to be "salvation".[/quote]

Ah....a former Christian, is it? A convert to atheism. You know what they say about converts...and I am one.

Well, damn. I didn't see that coming.

I'm letting that sink in...

I gotta ask:

1. What denomination?
2. Why didja leave?

I'm not going to mock you, CD...just trying to understand what happened.

This is kinda anti-climactic, but I guess you know we don't actually worship a book, right? Cause one, I'm Catholic - not a sola scripturist, and two, Protestants don't worship a book, either.

WE SERVE THE LIVING GOD.

I've already told you on at least two occasions I'm completely uninterested in having this particular discussion.  Why do you disrespect me by trying to drag me into it nonetheless?

It's your forum, CD. You don't have to respond to my posts. But something tells me that deep inside, this is a conversation that you very much want and need to have.

My agenda? Well, duh. I'm a Christian posting in an atheist forum. What do you think my agenda is? To exchange cookie recipes? 

I am listening and responding to the best of the posts (I have to keep my waders on, though).

For example, only after a half dozen or so epithet-laced personal attacks did you finally decide to write a coherent response to me that I could respond to.

Why not be calm and reasonable in your discussions from the get-go?

Because you argue in bad faith and you lie.  I have nothing but contempt for the kind of intellectual dishonesty you display.

I haven't lied once in this forum. I have been misunderstood and misrepresented by people of ill-will who are eager to believe anything about me. But I have never once said anything that I knew to be untrue. (Which covers the possibility that I'm stupid and sometimes say things that aren't true without knowing it!)

I told you to go fuck yourself and that you were a lying bucket of shit, because... wait for it... you misrepresented the position of three of us, despite our positions being uncomplicated and buried within all of about a dozen words each.  I don't buy your apology for a second.  Your misrepresentations and strawmen have been *legion* since you started posting here.

You did, CD. You definitely told me to go do that. As for the rest, I'm not convinced you're capable of being completely objective about anything I say.

If it makes you feel any better, the sentiment is still there - particularly because you seem intent on dragging me into a discussion that I have no interest in having.  You're a liar and an ass, Randy.  I have no use for you, and nothing but contempt.

If you shoot straight with me, CD, I promise that you will get nothing but honest answers from me to any and all questions you ask.

Fire when ready.