Why be good?

[Longhorn]

Is it really so extreme as that?

Sure, we all have basic understandings of right and wrong (I say these are from God; some but not all atheists in this thread say they are from societal convention or agreement or evolution).

However, there's no reason to believe that all Christians would become axe murderers if they "lost" their faith. But conversely, I think the "Mad Max" analogy used much earlier might have some truth to it in the total absence of God.

Let me put it this way: you, as an atheist, benefit from the fact that you live in a society that is still largely influenced by Judeo-Christian morality. A look at ISIS will give you some indication of what your life would be like if Christianity were not still pulling us to the "right".

Or would you look forward to living under Sharia law? And what would life be like if there were no authority at all?

If Christians don't go ape shit and murder everybody when they lose their faith, it proves that their morals are ultimately independent of their religion. And since they don't, the assertion that there is no morality without a god is bullshit.

Please point out the Judeo-Christian values in today's Western society. Do we avoid mixed fabrics? Stone adulterers? Ban eating shrimps? Pronounce women unclean during their periods?

And it's absolutely hilarious how you completely ignore that most democratic Western countries have secular values and godless constitutions-which is ironically the only way to protect everybody's religious freedoms-also yours, Randy.