RE: Stump the Christian?
June 10, 2015 at 7:23 pm
(This post was last modified: June 10, 2015 at 7:26 pm by Randy Carson.)
(June 10, 2015 at 6:46 pm)Esquilax Wrote:(June 10, 2015 at 6:30 pm)Randy Carson Wrote: Then why is it known as the Theory of Evolution and not the Law of Evolution?
If you don't understand a topic, might I suggest you do a little research before you speak so authoritatively on it?
I posted this link earlier in the thread, by the way. It's a bit funny really, watching so many theists talk about science while misunderstanding basic concepts of it.
Quote:I've never heard of the "theory of gravity"...but the Law of Gravity I know
You've never heard of it because you're ignorant of the topic you are talking about, and apparently have no interest in learning before you open your mouth.
In science, laws explain what, but theories explain how. Why is this so hard for you people? Did you flunk out of high school before your first few science lessons?
Quote:What you actually mean is the real "material" world.
You have no way of testing the real "immaterial", do you?
If god has never interacted with the material world, then he never created it, never was Jesus, never performed miracles and never answers prayers. Is that the god you believe in?
Can a theory be disproven?
How about a Law?
(June 10, 2015 at 7:20 pm)Esquilax Wrote:(June 10, 2015 at 7:17 pm)Randy Carson Wrote: Did I say that God has never interacted with the material world?
He created it, and became man, so yeah.
How does science test, measure and verify the immaterial?
What you are describing above are not immaterial claims, they are very definitely material ones, concerning material things and the interaction of your god with materials that we can test.
Besides the blatant category error of your thinking, the other thing is that, once again, you can't shift the burden of proof and then demand everyone else prove you wrong: you have the burden of proof for the flat claim that science cannot test god, and it's one that you're simply ignoring.
How would science test, measure and verify the immaterial?
If God is pure spirit, how would science know anything about him purely on the basis of scientific method?
(June 10, 2015 at 7:23 pm)abaris Wrote:(June 10, 2015 at 7:17 pm)Randy Carson Wrote: He created it, and became man, so yeah.
And here we are right back at the trinity desaster which not even theologians can explain.
We don't have to explain anything about the immaterial, since it is, well immaterial and in the eye of the beholder. But it speaks volumes that you live by a paradoxon that can't be explained by anyone. Either there was no god for three days or the trinity is out of the window.
Jesus' body was in the tomb for three days before returning to life.
His spirit, like yours, is eternal.