Stump the Christian?

[Longhorn]

Jesus fuck, Randy, fix your formatting

And here you blunder from the very first premise which states clearly that "everything which BEGINS has a cause." Thus, you have not dealt with the consideration that God, by definition, does not begin.

and that is the point exactly.it's begging the fucking question in the very first premise. it's specifically worded for its refutation and it's just dishonest

Ooooh. Special pleading. Well, Kalam fails for sure, huh? Seriously, address the argument.

I have. Maybe YOU would like to address the refutation?

You have failed to address the Kalam (or the science of cosmology). In the beginning, there was NOTHING to rearrange.

Further, if everything that exists is merely rearranged, then you have to answer by what cause. An object at rest tends to stay at rest.

So, no...

You don't know what was in 'the beginning', nobody does. And you're still conflating the two meanings of 'begin to exist' as well

The furthest Kalam can get you is 'a creator'. There's a huge unjustified leap you'd have to take to get to the theistic god, and an even bigger one to get to your particular pet diety. But it fails to do even that.

Seriously Randy, read the threads I linked. It's been done to death. You're not surprising anybody.