Quote:(June 21, 2015 at 3:03 pm)Neimenovic Wrote: [quote='Catholic_Lady' pid='970641' dateline='1434913232']
My apologies.
It seems like you would have some sort of opinion if you're so sure that mine is wrong. Even if your opinion is simply "anything, except supernatural elements."
And why would that be?
Well, I did further explain but you cut that part out when you quoted me above. ;-)
Quote:Do I need to have an alternative to say something sounds improbable?
Well you can correct me if I'm wrong but you don't seem to believe that a supernatural force "probably doesn't exist." You seem to believe that it definitely doesn't exist. So you have ruled out that possibility as the origin of everything. Completely ruling it out as an option is not just a simple "I have no idea how things happened." You have enough of an idea to at least know it wasn't that.
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So since the only theories I've heard so far in this thread by other atheists are:
a. the first ever thing to have existed came from nothing, or
b. the first ever thing to have existed has always existed
...I assumed that you disqualifying the any supernatural elements, meant the only things left over were one of those 2.
I wasn't aware that there were other options to choose from besides something having to do with those 2 things.
Really? I mean, we have no clue. Three options is hardly a fraction of the possibilities.
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Fair enough.
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly."
-walsh
-walsh
