(June 25, 2015 at 8:08 am)Stimbo Wrote:(June 24, 2015 at 11:03 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: I've never met any Christian or Jew who honestly believe God condones rape. As I have explained in several other posts, Randy was not saying that God condones rape.
You're switching gears between what the "God" character may or may not be written to condone and what people believe the character condones. It's a manoeuvre I call Dolphinetics, the act of leaping seamless from subject to subject in the course of the same swim, usually in the hope that we won't be able to keep up. I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt that you didn't realise you were doing it, while simultaneously letting you know that we can spot it quite easily.
I'm not sure what you mean, but my point is that the vast majority of Christians/Jews don't believe rape is ever acceptable (aka they don't believe God condones it), and that's what's important. I'm not trying to be complicated here. It's very simple. Whether they believe the OT was written literally, is none of my concern, personally. As long as they believe as the rest of us about rape, murder, slavery, etc, then I don't see how it matters or how they are affecting anyone. :-)
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly."
-walsh
-walsh