(July 5, 2015 at 12:00 pm)A Theist Wrote:(July 5, 2015 at 8:43 am)Mr.wizard Wrote: Bullshit! They refused to bake a cake for a couple because they where gay, who cares what the occasion was for. Their business is baking cakes, its not to tell people what marriages they think should be recognized. Would you be ok if they refused to bake a cake for an interracial marriage?
This does not violate religious freedom in any way shape or form, you cannot use your religion to violate somebody else's civil rights, that is not religious freedom.
Yeah, Bullshit backatcha! Yes it does violate their religious freedom. Unlike serving up some coffee and a doughnut or a cream puff, baking a wedding cake for those two lesbians and being forced to recognize gay marriage was an infringement on the Baker's religious convictions.
Quote:you cannot use your religion to violate somebody else's civil rights, that is not religious freedom.
What about the other way around? Can someone use their Civil Rights to violate the Civil Rights of others, namely, Freedom Of Religion?
Quote:Would you be ok if they refused to bake a cake for an interracial marriage?Only if the interracial couple were gay.
Its not a violation of the business owners civil rights because when you open a business to serve the public you are subject to anti-discrimination laws. Their personal stance on gay marriage is irrelevant when it comes to their business and the laws that govern that business.
Why only if the interracial couple was gay? There are plenty of Religious views that promote racial segregation, why would you be against a baker discriminating against a straight interracial couple and not a gay interracial couple?
Bottom line is bigots don't get to hide behind their religions to discriminate against groups of people.
