Atheism; the next step

[Shell B]

There may be a lot of groups, but there isn't an infinite number... and the number certianly isn't too large to accurately take into account.

There most certainly are too many to take into account. Let's start with A. Africans, Africans with AIDS, Africans with autism, Africans with HIV, Africans that have suffered tragedies, Africans who have not suffered tragedy, Africans with one parent, Africans with both parents, Africans with diabetes, Africans who are educated, Africans who are not, etc.

You think that only a god can create perfection?

I think no such thing. It's called sarcasm.

Or since you claim to be an atheist and don't believe in a god, you therefore think that perfection itself doesn't exist.

I think perfection is subjective. Oh, and I claim, therefore I am.

In other words.. you've already given up hope for perfection.

I haven't given perfection that much thought. I don't expect it from anyone or anything.

...that is just depressing to hear a defined atheist talk like that.

Take a prozac.

It reminds me of a muslim friend of mine who denounced his faith and OD'd on cocaine a month later because the fucking guy was too stupid to realise that he didn't need a god or religious rules to have a reason for living... and frankly that kind of attitude is disgusting and symptom of a deep seated inferiority complex.

Let me get this straight, you're comparing me to some drug addict that couldn't get his beliefs straight because I don't agree that you can be sure that most people do not think about the consequences of their actions and because I don't think we should expect perfection when it is subjective to begin with?

Just because there IS NO GOD it doesnt mean we as humans can't strive to be better.. and genetics, illness, tragedy and bad education are no excuse for anything except giving up.

God has nothing to do with it. And you go give that spiel to the kids that are terminally ill in the hospital. "Didn't you think about it before you got sick, you little assholes?" "You're illness is sucking the life out of our economy!" Yeah, that's sounds awesome.

I fail to see how i'm trying to make people like me. You just assume egomania because i've done the socially unthinkable thing of asking people to take responsibility for themselves.

I'm sorry. I worded that wrong. You aren't trying to make people like you. You are trying to make people live by your standards. That is equally egotistic.

In any case... thanks for lowering my estimation of atheists with the god comment above.

I do what I can.

EDIT! and i can't believe somebody gave you kudos for that. Utterly pathetic.

Careful you don't get overexcited. It's just a conversation.