(July 15, 2015 at 8:58 pm)huss88ein Wrote:(July 15, 2015 at 8:54 pm)SteelCurtain Wrote: Well, I say it's entirely germane to the main point. Your religion subjugates women, stifles free speech, and commits acts of extreme hate against gay people.Not true.
I could never be that kind of "ethical."
Calling some of the tenets of your religion ethical is fucking laughable in my book.
So, keeping it on topic, I would say disliking an entire group of people for something that they cannot control and has no effect on you is highly unethical and immoral.
What's wrong with gay people, Hussein?
And I promise I will make a discussion about the gays and how is that seen in islam.
And for women aren't they free to decide , you deciding for them is not freedom.
What isn't true? Islam doesn't subjugate women, it's adherents don't do unspeakable things to people who happen to be homosexual? There aren't people who are murdered, jailed, beaten, lashed for speaking their minds about how your religion is bullshit?
I have evidence on my side, Hussein. I have images and articles showing that all these things happen.
Women are absolutely not free to decide in Islamic theocracies. Absolutely not.
This thread is about morality. We don't need to have a discussion about about why you think being gay is bad. We all know why. But what is absolutely on the table in this discussion is that you think being gay is bad.
"There remain four irreducible objections to religious faith: that it wholly misrepresents the origins of man and the cosmos, that because of this original error it manages to combine the maximum servility with the maximum of solipsism, that it is both the result and the cause of dangerous sexual repression, and that it is ultimately grounded on wish-thinking." ~Christopher Hitchens, god is not Great
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