(October 1, 2012 at 12:13 pm)kılıç_mehmet Wrote:(October 1, 2012 at 9:57 am)thesummerqueen Wrote: Don't argue with him Brian - he'll keep espousing his nationalist tendencies till kingdom come.
If it were just my argument, I would not have brought it up.
You're the only one I ever see arguing that viewpoint with any sort of seriousness. I don't give a shit about the others. Also, other people sharing your viewpoint without bringing some sort of logic and evidence for it merely means they agree with your jabber - not that you have a good idea. Argument ad populum is a fallacy.
Quote:All communities that can be rightfully regarded "nations" have had such tendencies. And most of them still do.
Exclusion of others due to pride in oneself is an elitist, bullshit way of acting and is the reason I hate particular conservatives in this country, which was founded on the backs of immigrants, many of whom the conservatives of all economic strata wish to keep out because they play better, work better, and study more than they do. The earth is not an orange to slice up and be eaten by whomever can lay fastest claim to the section.
Quote:Quote:We are living in an increasingly global society. Those who decide they need to hold on to particular strips of land based on history and that they have some sort of fucking "right" to them because of race or religion are backwards and retarded.And what has this global society of yours done for the people of the world? Nothing, nothing more than to bring about destruction and to establish the hegemony of a single people over others, with the promises of peace and prosperity. I say that the world is much better off if individual nations thrive and develop independently, while maintaining friendly relations of commerce and trade, but your global society aims for the slavery of smaller groups of like-minded people, something what we call imperialism.
I'm determined to fight this so called fancy representation of modern imperial agenda to my last drop of blood, while you are only bent on perpetrating it, for you cannot live without it.
Your continued repitition of slippery slope arguments and denunciation of anything the West has given the East or vice versa is a constant source of irritated amusement for me.
Good luck without cars, internet, medicines/vaccines, etc.
PS - global society doesn't mean "hive mind." It's hard to have a hive mind when the earth is made up of thinking individuals. Well - at least we are here in the west. Is that a problem in Turkey? Is the adherence to Nation and Family so strong that y'all can't think for yourselves?
Quit projecting your fears onto our future. The world is what you make it - the quality of your thoughts shape the quality of your ability to give to the rest of the world.
And I said "increasing" - problems don't get solved overnight and there are too many people like you still around to hold coherent discussions about doing what's best for everyone and not just your isolated state.